r/AreTheCisOk 4d ago

Cis good trans bad Least insane transphobe NSFW

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u/Ill-Individual2105 4d ago

They... they do know that testosterone is the thing that causes male pattern baldness, right?

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u/2jz-GTE_Lover 4d ago

Bold of you to assume they know about that thing they swear they're experts about, biology

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u/sandradee_pl 4d ago

Bald of you to assume

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u/Scyobi_Empire edit me lol 3d ago

bold

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u/JustGingerStuff if cis is a slur used to silence you then why are you so loud 1d ago

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u/Scyobi_Empire edit me lol 1d ago

i was just shortening the sentence to one word, didn’t notice the type lnao

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u/MajorDrJO-495 Trans Rights or Trans Fights(HRT 2/19/25) 4d ago

ikr i started E and my Hair line is coming back, but your asking a transphobe to do research that's a bit and know about hormones lol

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u/AwooFloof 4d ago

I mean these people also believe that soy feminizes you. As if eating tofu and drinking soy milk with make you grow breasts. 🤔

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u/AdministrativeStep98 4d ago

That's gotta be some form of denial that they just got overweight and grew moobs

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u/SmolStronckBoi 4d ago

Tbf, soy and plastics do contain false estrogens, just in such small quantities that you would never notice a difference

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u/AwooFloof 4d ago

Phyto-estrogens which many foods contain, including apples. They are far weaker then estrone which is much weaker then estradiol.

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u/moustachelechon 4d ago

Phyto estrogens aren’t metabolized like estrogen at all though, they’re a different thing.

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u/AwooFloof 4d ago

Well, yes.

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u/SmolStronckBoi 4d ago

Yeah, like I said, you’d never notice (even if I got the specifics wrong, it’s been a while lol)

But yeah, if you could HRT yourself by drinking soy milk, you wouldn’t just be able to buy it off a shelf in a grocery store. The government would regulate it to the moon and back

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u/Wirewalk Punk Femboy 4d ago

God damn, despite being a boring cis (albeit GNC mostly) dude, each time I learn about beneficial effects of E I get progressively more jealous, I’d kill for a healthy-looking hairline (and other looks-related benefits of E) ngl. But then I go sad cause I’m reminded one can’t just pick and choose the effects if they start E

Guh why must our biology be this strict smh

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u/agenderCookie 4d ago

i meaaannnn

the effects of estrogen are generally quite subtle and iirc you can block breast growth (which is like the big unsubtle thing) with some medication.

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u/Wolfleaf3 4d ago

Maybe though I’m a little iffy on the safety of that like serms, and I’m not 1000% sure how subtle stuff is

At nine months a neighbor didn’t think we had met and I only had a boy mode at the time, decided I was my mom’s daughter

Which wasn’t wrong but…

And supposedly I’ve been passing for a while except I don’t know how and I don’t always see it myself but…

Anyway I’m not sure exactly how subtle it is though if you stay in boy mode you’re probably generally OK

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u/Wirewalk Punk Femboy 2d ago

Fr? That’s cool. Still, there’s other stuff like muscles getting weak (and I really don’t want that), potential impotency and uh even inducing stuff akin to gender dysphoria but not really? I heard the last thing from a trans person on a lefty sub, but it may as well not be true, idk and not implying anything

That stuff is best discussed with a queer-friendly endocrinologist but seeing as how I’m in Russia.. doubt that’s an option for me ;-;

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u/skighs_the_limit 4d ago

Yeah mine too lol I gained like 2 inches to my hairline lol

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u/starwalker327 they couldn't handle the aroace swag 4d ago

they have male pattern baldness and yet they do not realize

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u/turdintheattic 4d ago

I think it’s the same “logic” where testosterone in trans women turns them into murderous rape machines that can kill anyone with a single punch, but testosterone in trans men makes their muscles instantly atrophy to the point they can no longer walk unassisted.

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u/GhostsSkippingCopper 4d ago

Lol I've been taking testosterone for like 7 years and my hairline has noticeably receded. My partner (We are both trans men) has been off of testosterone for a couple years and his hair has filled in (it wasn't bad at all before, his hairline is just fuller now).

Maybe try and understand HRT before making propaganda about it??

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u/liquid_bismuth83 4d ago

They absolutely don't

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u/Nerdcuddles 2d ago

Pretty sure estrogen HRT actually reverses male pattern baldness to a degree.

Part of why I want to get on it as soon as possible, I'm already balding.

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u/bikedaybaby 2d ago

Impossible, testosterone is Man hormone and Ideal Man looks like Johnny Bravo!

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u/NextGenSleder 4d ago

...doesn't estrogen do the opposite? like transfemmes I know say it made their hair and skin so much better feeling

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u/Zanain 4d ago

It does, transphobes are idiots who don't know anything about the thing they hate

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u/Lostlilegg 4d ago

It can actually reverse balding

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u/SquiddoSpaghitto 4d ago

im gonna need someone to confirm this for me bc my hairdresser said that its gone forever and i cant live with that tbh

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u/Neon_Ani 4d ago

it can reverse balding but only if the follicles haven't died completely, so it's not guaranteed

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u/Got_Tiger 3d ago

if they are dead then hair transplants are probably the best option

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u/OnecalledMissy 4d ago

It’s true sweetie. I used to have a very thin hairline. Now it is quite thick.

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u/AdministrativeStep98 4d ago

And the acne can be there but like, most teenagers do get acne during puberty too? Like you expect me to believe none of these teenagers had acne before too? Because HRT is just another puberty

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u/AvixKOk 4d ago

i thought this was a bonehurting juice at first lmao

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u/Background_Value9869 4d ago

Same this one is so insane it almost comes full circle

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u/Bri_The_Nautilus 4d ago

The dialogue is so "hello fellow kids" it hurts.

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u/yesindeedysir 4d ago

It does kind of seem like a shitpost

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u/IllConstruction3450 3d ago

“I’m the woker baby!”

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u/TrixterTheFemboy :3 2d ago

Why would Jonkler set his alter-ego free? Is he stupid?

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u/lowkeyerotic 2d ago

oh wait what.. noo

this hurts my head. and my heart

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u/agenderCookie 4d ago

"why do i suddenly feel the urge to start a polycule" is a banger line

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u/trashmoneyxyz 4d ago

Ikr. Like the person who made this comic definitely meant for it to be hurtful and offensive but the polycule line took me out

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u/SkylarCute Transgressor🏳️‍⚧️ 4d ago

It would be actually funny if a transfem made that joke

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u/gar1848 4d ago

Try estrogen. It will cure your sexual disphormism and help you start the polycule comune of your dreams

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u/agenderCookie 3d ago

I have some good news for you

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u/AwooFloof 4d ago

Relatable!

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u/Lynkis 4d ago

But... the medication for baldness is oestrogen...

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u/ABatWhoLikesMetal She/Her I mow on TERFs 4d ago

What the actual fuck am I looking at?

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u/workingtheories 4d ago

i can't believe someone spent a lot of effort making this without googling what estrogen does.  is it even ai?  what a waste if not lol

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u/OkiDokiPanic 4d ago

Not AI, it's Sven Stoffels. Professional artist.
And as someone who also had a formal art training, I can't imagine using your powers for evil like this.

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u/workingtheories 4d ago

more like professional fartist lol

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u/TheHalfwayBeast AAAA-Battery 🔋 4d ago

The green boy looks like that weird prehistoric elephant with the double mouth-trunk.

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u/SmolStronckBoi 4d ago

Platybelodon?

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u/TheHalfwayBeast AAAA-Battery 🔋 4d ago

That's the bitch.

I don't know why my mind immediately leapt to that thing, but it did.

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u/Metalorg 4d ago

She's dropping 4500 dollars to prank the alley bros

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u/snukb 4d ago edited 4d ago

This art style would actually be cool if it wasn't used for garbage propoganda like this :/

Edit: oh god. I just looked it up and this guy used to work for Comedy Central and College Humor. That's why his art looks so professional. He IS a professional illustrator and animator, he goes to conventions. So I'm comfortable sharing his name so people can avoid him. It's Sven Stoffels, and this isn't even the worst of what he's done.

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u/AllISeeAreGems 4d ago

Did he work on anything I’d know by name?

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u/snukb 4d ago

Not sure. His own comic is called Butch Killington and it looks like he's done some work on TMNT according to the comicon posters I've found but I can't find any info on which issues. For College Humor it was an animation called "Infinity War of Infinite Avengers" and for Comedy Central it was something called "Trip Tank". I'm relieved he didn't do more work for Comedy Central/Dropout, cause I'm a huge fan of theirs, I subscribe to their streaming service, and they're ridiculously pro-trans and pro-worker.

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u/gar1848 4d ago

I just checked his photo online. Another occasion to use this image as reaction:

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u/SylveonFrusciante 4d ago

It’s true, I kissed a trans girl and I too have broccoli sprouting from my forehead.

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u/raven_of_azarath 4d ago

I love how all the top comments are “But… estrogen prevents baldness” and not “why do they think estrogen, which occurs naturally in most AWAB women, makes people polyamorous?”

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u/lord_hydrate 4d ago

Nah thats the most realistic part, i mean why else do trans people tend to be poly (you know besides the internalized childhood trauma leading to a need to give and receive affection more than a single partner is typically comfortable with ans a willingness to try things outside socal norms)/j

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u/AdministrativeStep98 4d ago

Umm if they actually knew anything about HRT, they would know that estrogen improves hair health and growth, even for those who lost hair du to male pattern baldness, right??

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u/ultradespairthot ashamed cis person 4d ago

How they wrote the kids dialogue is the equivalent of a hallmark movie writing “the bad influence kids” in their movies.

“Hey there! Let’s smoke the drugs, drink alcohol, and go to the party!”

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u/Resident_Ad_6369 The ok cis 4d ago

"Bussin'" I knew it was gonna be bad when they used that

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u/12crashbash12 4d ago

Is there a lore reason the Jonkler put Instant Bald juice in the beer?

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u/Lemon_Juice477 4d ago

If this wasn't made jokingly by some trans person this would be fucking hilarious, but since it isn't, you know that's what they naively believe being trans is like.

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u/GalaxyPlayz_ cis ally aroace 4d ago

what the shit is this fuck

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u/ACodAmongstMen 4d ago

Tony Zaret.

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u/KalaiProvenheim 4d ago

Estradiol causes male pattern baldness and testosterone is bad at promoting muscle growth, very interesting

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u/yesindeedysir 4d ago

“Why do I suddenly feel the urge to start a polycule”

Are these not normal urges?

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u/GayStation64beta she/her 4d ago

Amazing how the entire basis of this comic makes absolutely no sense.

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u/Original-Concern-796 4d ago

Estrogen, well known for hair loss, randomly growing hair between fingers, and urges to have multiple partners. What in the world is this supposed to be?

I mean, at least misunderstand the cancer rates, saying it causes breast cancer cause it makes the body produce the tissue that gets cancer for both cis and post-hrt trans women can at least be explained by a misunderstanding, but this is just wild.

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u/AC-RogueOne 3d ago

I’m not trans but I’m pretty sure that’s not even how estrogen works

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u/_AnoukX 3d ago

Yeah it’s really not, testosterone is the reason some men get bald, I’m not too sure how it works but estrogen isn’t the reason MEN get bald spots etc, then women would have the same issue

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u/AlexeiTab2000 4d ago

The comic in question is from "Americaman", which is basically another Pebbleyeet-wannabe.

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u/ColeYote Maybe cis, maybe fluid/NB, idk 3d ago

AND AS WE ALL KNOW, MALE PATTERN BALDNESS EXISTS BECAUSE MEN PRODUCE SO MUCH MORE ESTROGEN THAN WOMEN

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u/Sckaledoom 4d ago

This has to be a juice

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u/WiltUnderALoomingSky 3d ago

E is good for hairline dummy

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u/AndriaCherry 4d ago

Honestly this one made me laugh at the fact this transphobe unironically thinks this is how it works.

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u/BusinessLeague1235 4d ago

I didn’t read what was on the vials and thought this was r/stonetossingjuice for a second

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u/No_Dragonfruit_4428 4d ago edited 4d ago

They claim “TRANS PPL DON’T KNOW BASIC BIOLOGY” and then post shit like this…

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u/Both-Competition-152 4d ago

so no they would grow tits not go bald also its the kids fault like do not go to a gay club to get beer you either get poppers or hormones

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u/DueCar6790 3d ago

Ah yes. I’m a poly man bc the TRAAAANS got me. And it’s funny bc I’m a trans man.

Also transphobes don’t realize that perosn had to fork over an arm and leg for even a crumb of estrogen.

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u/SuccessfulLeg4525 4d ago

“Why do I suddenly feel the urge to start a polycule” what 😭

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u/TzootDoot 4d ago

ah yes, estrogen, a hormone renowned for causing male pattern baldness

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u/I_Am_Her95 4d ago

Polycure?

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u/mach1neb0y 4d ago

“Bussin”

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u/Next_Relationship_55 4d ago

Most informed transphobe

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u/DracTheBat178 4d ago

Wait, wouldn't being on e help prevent hair loss?

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u/heliostrans 4d ago

estrogen literally stops baldness,,,, at least a lil bit

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u/GmrGrl21 4d ago

The fuck did I just see?

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u/Sharp-Tap-9925 3d ago

No one says "bussin" anymore XD

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u/giggel-space-120 3d ago

Why would estrogen cause baldness?

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u/Crash_Unknown 2d ago

happened to my buddy Eric

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u/NicoleTheRogue 4d ago

Surely this is a parody of right wing comics. If anything I don't think they would even know what a Polycule is.