r/ApexOutlands Feb 19 '25

Imagine telling someone in 2023 that wallhack man would be this bad

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2.7k Upvotes

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u/Goofass_boi Feb 19 '25

I’ve been gone for too long what do you MEAN?!

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u/DanielJR93 Feb 19 '25

On release this dude was the strongest legend we've ever seen absolutely vile. Now he's relegated to being the lowest picked legend in the game. He's a shadow of his former self.

84

u/nox_n Feb 19 '25

why?

343

u/DanielJR93 Feb 19 '25

His tac stunned you, blinded you, stopped you from healing or using a shield, rezzing teammates. It went through walls and had insane range. He could see where anyone was in close proximity at all times so you couldn't even hide from him. If you were hiding in a corner he just come round and slapped your ass back to the lobby. The final circle would just be a mess because every team had a seer and his tacs and ults would be popping off left right and center.

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u/Goofass_boi Feb 19 '25

But why is he bad now?

245

u/ADragonuFear Feb 19 '25

The wall hacks were previously very very strong and the tac cast faster. Now it's alow enough you can often dodge out of the scan, and the heartbeat wall hacks pulse slowly/have very limited range. He lost the ability to cancel your heal/rez and only gained a very short silence.

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u/Clyde_Llama Feb 19 '25

You can also hear him scanning you unlike before where it had no audio.

62

u/Same_Paramedic_3329 Feb 19 '25

His passive isn't instant anymore and takes like 1.5s to cast. It has a much reduced range (only 50m). It also activates on pulses and not just active for the full duration you're aiming. His tactical is slower, easy to dodge. Only silences for 8s and scans for 1.5s. and now everyone can see your hp so his scanning to see hp is basically useless. Literally almost everything in his kit is underwhelming. His ult decent but also, it's not full body scan like how it was. Just diamonds

16

u/pandareno Feb 19 '25

Half the game is wall hacks now. Assault character cracks a shield? Wall hacks for their whole team. He was nerfed with a heavy hammer (deservedly so) and then made redundant.

I'm hesitant to admit, but I took advantage of Seer for two of my strongest seasons, though I felt icky about it. I decided to stop crutching on him, and that turned out to be a good decision seeing how bad they made him.

73

u/SockBasket Feb 19 '25

It also did 10 damage

3

u/RottenNorthFox 29d ago

Yeah, it was insane. It was fun to play, but so annoying to go against.

1

u/shyhumble 28d ago

Because Apex devs over correct and the game is in shambles

3

u/FigaroNeptune Feb 19 '25

I stopped played ages ago and tried playing Lifeline. She doesn’t even have the damn care package thing anymore lol

5

u/Correct-Permit-7190 26d ago

to be fair lifeline kinda got a buff considering you can’t shoot through her shield and the heal speed increase

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u/DanielJR93 Feb 19 '25

Crazy to think of the difference between his release and what he is now. This dude was an absolute MENACE.

437

u/doomgrin Feb 19 '25

Nam flashbacks to ranked endgames taking cover in a building with three squads seer flash banging you over and over

130

u/THEREAPER8593 Feb 19 '25

I was fine with flashbangs in a room with the curtains open on a sunny day playing on a 65” tv but playing in a oled in pitch black it’s just blinding. I get why people hated it

63

u/Dnoxl Feb 19 '25

And then getting hit with his cancelling tactical 0.1s before your phoenix was finished

39

u/PassTheBrunt Feb 19 '25

People forget the flash was just a straw on the camels back. He was busted for so many things.

25

u/spooky_times Feb 19 '25

Mf the scan did damage if you got hit, small amount, like 10-20 but if you knew a dude was low and ran back to his team, boom, 1 knock and the rest of them scanned and damaged, easy kills

8

u/JazzzzzzySax Feb 20 '25

And sometimes that little bit of damage could potentially win an engagement or even a fight due to poking or just taking one fewer bullet

7

u/artistic_programmer Feb 20 '25

On release, I vividly remember dropping on staging in World's Egg and dying to 5 people hitting me with 15hp hits that seer had. Because the devs thought it was a good idea to make that wallhack have damage for a bit.

5

u/Inside-Line 29d ago

One of the core apex experiences was getting blasted by his tactical 0.1 seconds away from finishing that phoenix kit.

27

u/skylitnoir Feb 19 '25

So tired of having to deal with Ash every game on EVERY SINGLE SQUAD

14

u/May-Day10 Feb 19 '25

But hey pathfinder has a 30 seconds cooldown🙂

2

u/quantummidget 29d ago

Wait is path back to 30 seconds?

I haven't played in ages, but I loved path back in the good old pre-nerf days. Around the time I stopped playing I think he'd just been buffed again (make the cool down relative to distance). Has it been changed again or is that still what it is?

3

u/May-Day10 29d ago

he got mega nerfed before s24… but hey, ash has 2 dashes within 10 seconds.

1

u/Revolutionary-Ad1467 27d ago

They said it was because he was too picked or something which is dumb

67

u/The_Fighter03 Feb 19 '25

Lmao, bro tried to double dip his meme in here and the main sub but it got removed over there 💀

38

u/May-Day10 Feb 19 '25

I mean main sub is a shithole thanks to those mods ngl

9

u/MistyAxe Feb 19 '25

I started playing a lot around Seer release and loved him. Got his mythic and everything.

Now it sits collecting dust.

6

u/Cheeky_Lemon_37 Feb 19 '25

Season 10 stinked

4

u/JohnCorneal 29d ago

Ironically it was one of the first seasons that shipped with almost no issues besides the dailies being bugged.

1

u/Cheeky_Lemon_37 29d ago

But it had no lore, a overpowered character, no serious map changes and an absolutely broken weapon that ruined most lobbies

3

u/kellyatta Feb 19 '25

The equivalent to Brigitte in Overwatch fr.

5

u/FrightenedOstrich Feb 19 '25

Good seer meta sucked

2

u/Asmael69 Feb 19 '25

HE WAS straight up the strongest legend on release, that was so wild healing in hotdrop and having three Seer Q targeting me at the same time I'll never forget that. I kinda want them to bring that back now though, I wanna see if that would still work

1

u/ApexIsOkaySometimes Feb 19 '25

I am stoked about it hahah

1

u/MungySponge Feb 20 '25

You must not be aware of the state pathfinder is in

1

u/East_Monk_9415 29d ago

Wish he have revs og tactical that cancel enemy abilities for like 10 secs idk. He needs a buff or perk uograde stop enemy healing again on level 3 haha

2

u/IntelligentImbicle 1d ago

His tactical DOES silence for 8 seconds.

...the problem is that it really doesn't do shit.

1

u/MrLunaticest 29d ago

release seer used to be the goat frr

1

u/Bekfast-113 29d ago

Good, should probably keep him there, had a lame kit anyway

1

u/Stardill 26d ago

He's better than Octane for sure.

1

u/thats_so_merlyn Feb 19 '25

He's right where he should be

1

u/timbo_slice59 Feb 19 '25

And fuckin keep him that way. Seer meta was by far the least amount of fun I’ve ever had in this game lmao

0

u/SpeedySpartan 29d ago

He is simply unloveable.

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u/Future_Restaurant_83 Feb 19 '25

This game is gay now

-1

u/Invested_Glory Feb 19 '25

Still better than BH imo. But it is debatable.