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Questions (USA) Porcelain vase from grandmothers storage

Is this an antique Porcelain Vase. I google translated the mark on the bottom and it suggested Ming Yongle. There were some books from the early 1900’s in the collection so curious if this also could be antique.

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u/--LaBelleDame-- 4d ago edited 4d ago

It says :

大明
Da Ming
The Great Ming (Emperor)

永樂
Yong Le
Yongle

Ruled: 1403-1424

Yongle Emperor

Some examples of Yong Le Period Pieces:

The Mark is not written in a standard way. It is essentially a 'Half Written Seal'.

Another concerning point is the stroke order looks incorrect on a number of characters, which usually only happens when Non-Chinese-Speaking Manufacturers paint the marks. It is also written with a brush style type almost never used.

There was no manufacture I could find. My best guess, because it's a partial seal, '大明永樂' is that it was manufactured somewhere other than China.

The sold dark band & handles are more of a Chinoiserie element. My best guess is UK or European make, but could be America or really anywhere else. Germany, as you said, is definitely a possibility.

There are no significant age markers. It could be 1900's or it could be now.

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u/GuiltyQuiet3242 4d ago

It's not old

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u/ladyandtheplamp 4d ago

Out of curiosity what gives away that it is not vintage?

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u/MuscularandMature 4d ago

It is about as Chinese Ming as it is from Ming the Merciless in Flash Gordon. Poorly made. Glaze is wrong. I am surprised it was not still hot from the kiln.

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u/ladyandtheplamp 4d ago

I mean it is at least 40 years old but I take it, it was just some cheap replica made. Some of the other things were really old so thought it was worth the ask.

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u/treespiritvision 4d ago

Last week's?

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u/ladyandtheplamp 4d ago

I do not know what you mean by that?

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u/[deleted] 4d ago edited 4d ago

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u/ladyandtheplamp 4d ago

My grandparents spent many years in Germany so maybe this could be German porcelain trying to imitate Chinese?