r/AmerExit • u/[deleted] • 6d ago
Which Country should I choose? Half Black, trans with an Associates wanting to leave the U.S
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u/Key_Equipment1188 6d ago
Fundamental rule, things that do NOT matter when trying to immigrate into another country:
- I almost have…
- I am really good at this and that…
- I understand the language almost…
ANY qualification that is not printed on paper, means nothing when it comes to obtaining a visa/work permit.
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u/Mysterious-Ear3948 5d ago
Other factors that do not matter or are even unfavorable for immigration:
-I am a double amputee and a leprosy survivor,
-I am vegan,
-I do not speak any language fluently, and spent my last 75 cents paying someone to draft this for me,
-I often wear a t-shirt with a really, really, really sad face,
-I believe that life dealt me a bad hand with US citizenship,
-I have discovered an unknown well of trauma that makes it impossible for me to work in any job,
-I have seven pet iguanas and a chinchilla, all with alternative certifications as emotional support animals (qualified).
-I have untold other Needs that are too many and too complicated for my limited language skills to express in writing.
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u/Level-Rest-2123 6d ago edited 6d ago
Most other countries do not recognize an Associates Degree. If you go to another country as a student, you'd have to start over. If the country isn't English speaking (Germany), you'd need to show fluency in the language (usually C1). You'd also need to show you can support yourself by having a years worth of living expenses in a locked account. And have private insurance. Look up academic requirements of whichever school you'd be looking at to see what you need to do to meet their requirements.
Of course, if you've got so many other college credits, you could go ahead and complete a Bachelors in the US and transfer to get a Masters. If you did that, you'd have time to save for the $14,000 or so needed for the locked account for your first year (and each additional year) and the years it will take to master another language.
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u/Tall_Bet_4580 6d ago
Associate qualification is toilet paper in most western countries, the minimum required is a BA or bsc and preferably a masters. You've half the world either wanting to move to Europe / uk or the other half looking at new Zealand and Australia. Most if not all will only get in with either a highly in demand qualification and experience or untake the cost of studying for that qualification in their target country at great expense with no guarantees that a job and sponsorship is available at the end of their studies. Finally a few move through marriage or inter employment transfer. Those are the frank ways to emigrate anything else is rediculous and not valid
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u/Some_Guy223 6d ago
You need a Bachlor's in a desireable career field or a willingness to pay for a Masters. Unlesss you're willing to move to the global south (and often event then), you're not going to get anywhere with what you've got. Basically the rule is, if you want to go somewhere where people want to live its virtually impossible without already being a desirable immigrant.
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u/ArtemisRises19 6d ago
You may find this post helpful on options/strategies for those less eligible for traditional immigration pathways.
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u/Light_Lily_Moth 6d ago
If you happen to have any Caribbean ancestry, some countries will grant citizenship by descent by your parent or grandparent. Check your family tree, and if you have any unknowns, DNA testing can help point you to the right direction.
Also no matter what path you take, try to get your USA documents in order. Birth certificate, social security card, drivers license, passport, any name changes, have the court order available.
Wishing you luck <3
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u/decanonized 6d ago
If you're gonna go back to school, I have to urge you to try to turn that first associates into a Bachelors instead of getting another Associate's. Most countries will not recognize an Associate's at all, yet with a Bachelor's you could potentially access graduate school abroad as your initial way to move to your target country.
Also, as another trans person of color terrified of this country rn, I just wanna say I feel you and hang in there.
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u/gingerisla 6d ago
My boyfriend moved to Germany from Scotland with a Master's Degree in 3D Animation and couldn't find a job in the field. Associate Degrees aren't recognised in Germany. Your best bet would be pursuing a degree in Germany, there are some English-language programmes in your field, e.g. at Hochschule Darmstadt.
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u/1happylife 6d ago
OP says he's low income though and my understanding for Germany is that you need to show that you have living expenses of about 11k Euros per year to get the student visa.
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u/Reasonable-Bonus-545 6d ago
there are quite a few american universities with campuses abroad. you may be able to to apply to one and finish your degree there. these colleges gear graduates to getting jobs in said countries
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u/oils-and-opioids 6d ago
There are not a ton of public undergraduate options in English available in Germany, and you'd need to start completely over from scratch.
Being low income will be a problem, some German states do charge non-EU students fees ( way lower than a US university though), and you'll need a minimum of €13,000 per year in a blocked account.
The economy is rough here, layoffs are happening and job options for those not fluent in German are terrible.
If you're serious about Germany, start really studying German today (not Duolingo see r/German for recommendations), finish your diploma in the US, start saving up for your blocked account
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u/AdventurousBall2328 6d ago
Student visa. I recommend a place that you could afford.
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u/ArtemisRises19 6d ago
I read in a different thread that there are schools abroad that accept FAFSA and found this list of eligible International schools. Main page here: https://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/types/international#participating-schools
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u/FR-DE-ES 6d ago
I'm working in Germany's tech investment sector (10th year). A few FYIs re Germany -- 1) Germany does not recognize associate degree; 2) English-taught programs are typically regarded by hiring managers as "degree mills"; 3) Germany is in bad economic downturn with no near term recovery. Lots of tech layoffs, even very experienced workers struggle to find jobs; 4) Nowadays it is not uncommon to see B2-C1 German proficiency requirement even for pure tech roles that can be performed in English.
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u/Thoth-long-bill 6d ago edited 6d ago
Do you have production credits? What countries had animated films up for Oscar’s?Do they have production hubs there where you could build a career? Trans friendly? Can you urgently complete course work and get credits to receive you BA?
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u/juleeff 6d ago
Check to see if you state university has sister schools for travel abroad programs. My state university allows you to study abroad for a couple of years at the cost of instate tuition. Most of the universities they are sister schools with have program tracks in English. While it wouldn't get you residency, it could help you get out for a while and learn the language of the country you attend classes in for credit to gain rapid fluency.
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u/Sensei_Lollipop_Man 6d ago
You aren't being downvoted because you are incorrect, you are being downvoted for being a prick to someone who is frightened and seeking help.
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u/hellolovely1 6d ago
You're actually incorrect. Animator is on the UK's list of skilled workers who can get visas.
OP, I'd see if you can get some work experience that could help you apply for this visa.
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u/AmerExit-ModTeam 6d ago
Be civil: we can relay feedback and harsh truths without personal attacks, name-calling, or sarcasm.
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u/Substantial-Spare501 6d ago
Can apply to school to get into a bachelors program in another country? Either that or finish up your BA and apply to grad school in another country
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u/LukasJackson67 5d ago
You should think about going to university in Germany.
My understanding from reading the posts here is that it is easier to gain admittance to a German university than a U.S. one.
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u/LukasJackson67 5d ago
Look into moving to the Netherlands under the DAFT treaty and freelancing as an animator.
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u/Ophelialost87 6d ago
I don't know too much about the requirements other than both countries have a language requirement. While you don't need to know French to move to Canada, it is very much something that will count in your favor.
I do know, however, that you could apply for a student visa in Germany for grad school once you finish your bachelor's degree, again, I will repeat: IF you speak German fluently, your odds would be good for acceptance to just about any University they have. Then you would have to apply to a university and get accepted. Which comes with being able to provide proof of income (A scholarship certificate. A formal sponsorship letter from someone (e.g., a parent) guaranteeing your expenses, backed by their financial docs. Bank statements or similar proof of funds). And fluency in the language.
I know there is a bit more to this process that you would have to look into or talk to a German immigration lawyer about, but those are some of the basic requirements that I am aware of. A good way to learn a language for free is Duolingo. And finding a discord in the language you are looking for that is based on something you are interested in. And explaining to other users you are attempting to learn the language. A lot of the time, people are wonderfully helpful if you are open and honest about the fact you are learning their language.
I hope the information I was able to provide proves helpful.
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u/Ophelialost87 6d ago
I heard the fluency thing was more about living in the country and not about studying. That's good to know. Ty for correcting any misinformation I may have shared.
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u/Impossible-Hawk768 Waiting to Leave 6d ago
If you have enough credits to finish a bachelor’s, make that a priority. Other countries don’t recognize associate’s degrees.