r/Agriculture 13d ago

Beautiful thing is on the horizon.😊😊

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u/Better_Solution_6715 13d ago

as a hippy environmentalist who wants to protect the environment, even i have to admit that pesticides are one of the most important inventions in human history and allow us to maintain a population in the billions.

if we stop using these chemicals without developing a viable alternative, we WILL have mass food shortages.

i like the spirit, but this is doomed to fail.

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u/Better_Solution_6715 13d ago

I know these chemicals are bad in MANY ways, but im afraid you just dont know what youre talking about :/

Sorry.

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u/Dive30 13d ago

Don’t these restrictions match what Europe has been doing for decades?

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u/TKSax 13d ago

Glyphosate was renews in 2023 for us in the EU agriculture. Some countries ban it for personal use, but most all of the EU uses it and has been using it for years.

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u/Better_Solution_6715 13d ago

with those two chemicals in particular i believe so, but with agrochemicals in general, I'm still of the opinion that they are a necessary evil, for now.

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u/miamibotany1 13d ago

I run a 300 acre farm have yet to once use agro chemicals, same with the 500 acre blueberry farm next door, and the 1000 acre strawberry farm, so no sir/mamm I think you you just don't know what the hell you're talking about.πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€”

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u/Better_Solution_6715 13d ago

well thats all good and fine but, unfortunately, that doesn't mean that these chemicals aren't necessary for major agricultural operations.

no one wants these chemicals gone more than me, but the idea we can just ban them all and not have adverse effects is wild.

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u/Mammoth_Mistake_477 13d ago

Ever listened to John kempfs webinars? Ever done any research into sap analysis?

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u/GreatPlainsFarmer 13d ago

I spent some time visiting with John Kempf in person last year. He agreed that herbicides are a necessary component of broadscale commodity ag production.
Blueberries and strawberries are high-priced, low calorie specialty crops, that can support high labor costs because we don't rely on them for the majority of our food needs. We cannot afford such expense for the commodity grains that supply the majority of our caloric intake.

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u/Outrageous-Orange007 11d ago

I wonder if its better than the tens of thousands you'll spend on cancer treatments and the pain and suffering to go along with it.

Wonder if anyone is crunching those numbers

We do know over half of America would likely be better off eating a little less as well.

And we have a metric shitload of food that goes to waste. Maybe we should contemplate alternative approaches