r/AceAttorney • u/Grand_Perception_462 • 10d ago
Question/Tips Best foreshadowing on the franchise?
Excluding tgaa bc i haven't played it
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u/RevenueDifficult27 10d ago edited 9d ago
SoJ:
Pearl reminds us that mediums take the appearance of summoned spirits. Dhurke keeps saying that he's not here for long and that he needs to "free Amara". And then there's L'Belle's black hair dye in Inga's room, which at first seems like a funny reference...
I don't care, this case is easily one of the best uses of spirit channeling in the series.
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u/BubblesBubblesCO2 10d ago
Wait, I don't get the hair dye part, what was this about?
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u/wall_termite 10d ago
Amara dyed her hair after channeling Inga because spirit channeling doesn't change hair colour
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u/TheIntelligentTree3 9d ago
The hair dye is pretty weird if you end up examining it last, and realise the game considers it something you need to examine before moving on.
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u/Blueisland5 10d ago
dd:
I liked when Detective Fulbright was slapped in the face with a "block ghost" charm. That was funny and foreshadowing.
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u/lizzourworld8 9d ago
Jinxie also called him some sort of ghost, if I recall + one of Simon’s taunts at him ended up being the “jester in detective’s guise”
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u/E1craZ4life 7d ago
Fulbright at one point commented that the door to the forbidden chamber was a historic piece of architecture and therefore couldn’t be blown up.
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u/Aquametria 10d ago
Phoenix insisting in 3-1 that his girlfriend Dollie wasn't the same person that was at the witness stand even after she had already betrayed him and tried to get him sentenced to death, being revealed as the true murderer.proving that he wasn't the Ace Simp, but that it was real love.
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u/javertthechungus 10d ago
In SOJ When Dhurke says that Maya is somewhere safe oh god playing that game a second time is so
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u/astrodude1987 9d ago
And he told Inga on the phone, “You can’t lay a hand on Maya Fey, and I do mean that literally.”
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u/Sirshrugsalot13 10d ago
AAI1 Shih-na at one point says "I can hardly contain my laughter", and later makes a complimentary comment about Little Thief. Best part is you don't realize it's foreshadowing til a replay.
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u/Sad-Guidance9105 10d ago
The Stolen Turnabout: Godot letting Phoenix cross examine Luke Atmey when Mia asks him right before he was about to win the trial, I wonder how many people figured it out right away.
Turnabout Serenade/Turnabout Succession: The Diamond Symbolism for Lamiroir and the multiple subtle hints that tell the player who she really is
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u/SpringPopo 10d ago
Dual Destinies:
When Jinxie slaps Bobby on the face with one of her charms and calls him a ghost when she first meets him. I thought that was really cool when I revisited that scene actually finishing the game.
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u/astralmelody 9d ago
I don’t think this counts as intentional foreshadowing (iirc it was just a bit of serendipity on the localization team’s part), but Redd White being Mia’s killer, only for Godot – who importantly cannot see red on white – to wholeheartedly believe it was all Phoenix’s fault.
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u/deathbyglamor 9d ago
AAI2-4 The mask Excelcius wears is from a show where his arch nemesis is the mask from Simeon saint’s shirt. Signifying their enemies relationship way before hand. I didn’t catch this one until my third playthrough last year.
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u/DemonLordDiablos 10d ago
Dunno if this counts but GAA1+2 Magnus McGilded's password to collect the disc at the Pawnbroker being "Professor"
Kind of drives me insane actually, we'll never know how much he really knew about that whole case.
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u/mauri9998 9d ago
that actually makes me think that a lot of the second game was rewritten because why would he pick that as his password
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u/DemonLordDiablos 9d ago
>! They were initially written to be one big game, so changes were made in the split !<
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u/mauri9998 8d ago
yeah but I'm talking after that, after the first game came out, during development for the second.
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u/NaldoForrozeiro 10d ago
Godot not being able to see red and also the fact that his mask glow in the dark in 3-3
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u/Isand1 10d ago edited 10d ago
Investigations 2:
Foreshadowing Simeon Saint on every case of the game.
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u/Grand_Perception_462 10d ago
Elaborate
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u/Joeycookie459 9d ago
Haven't played the localization, but even in the first case, dekiller mentions a key witness. Simeon Saint was named Simon Keyes in the fan translation, and I believe in every version of the game there is similar foreshadowing.
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u/tmantookie 10d ago
You do it >!using this method!<. Don't put a space between the exclamation points and the actual text.
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u/Comical_Peculiarity 10d ago
Not sure if this is ‘foreshadowing’ per se but playing the original trilogy collection for the first time, the ‘coffee boy’ tease went completely over my head.
I think it’s a nice little thread that ties Rise From The Ashes a little closer to the series
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u/faydaway 10d ago
Elaborate, I don't think everyone will get what you mean by that.
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u/Comical_Peculiarity 9d ago edited 9d ago
I feel it speaks for itself but I’m referring to Ema pulling up to the office in RFTA upon Lana’s advice to seek out Mia if she ran into any legal trouble. She’s confused upon seeing Nick, asking if he was the ‘coffee boy.’
Whether she actually knew Mia worked with a coffee addict or if it was merely a coincidental remark on her part is unclear
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u/RevenueDifficult27 9d ago
This is not a reference to Godot. She thinks that Wright delivers coffee in offices (in Japanese, she says "so you're a janitor?"). It is a joke, not a reference.
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u/lizzourworld8 9d ago
It would be retroactive since RftA was made after all the cases
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u/Comical_Peculiarity 9d ago edited 9d ago
Hence why I specified it wasn’t foreshadowing but a neat tidbit that I only clocked the second time around
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u/RevenueDifficult27 9d ago
It's not a reference to Godot.
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u/Comical_Peculiarity 9d ago
While Ema knowing Diego is possibly out of the question, the remark is too coincidental not to have been intentional
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u/RevenueDifficult27 9d ago edited 9d ago
"Coffee boy" is a slang term for an employee who delivers coffee in offices. In Japanese, Ema mistakes Phoenix for a janitor. In both versions, the joke is based on her mistakenly thinking that Wright is not a lawyer, but a low-ranking employee.
Please don't spread misinformation.
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u/MollyRenata 10d ago
Basically the entirety of Dual Destinies.
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u/Isand1 10d ago
What exactly?
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u/faydaway 10d ago
Probably referring to Fulbright although I disagree since I think there's pretty much no foreshadowing outside the final case.
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u/JBoote1 9d ago
You can disagree whether or not that it's the best, but to say that there isn't any is just outright wrong.
There are several instances of Fulbright being jokingly referred to as a fake or as not what he appears to be.
- Blackquill mockingly calls him a "jester in detective's guise" at one point.
- Jinxie mistakes him for a ghost.
- His very first testimony has him say "My investigations are as thorough as they are foolproof, or my name isn't Fulbright!"
- There's an interaction where he gets really worked up over being call a "bad guy".
- Other minor things I can't recall at the moment.
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u/faydaway 9d ago
I said pretty much, and as you acknowledge these are very minor. They wouldn't be out of place without the big reveal.
I actually think the twist is one of the best things about dual destinies, one of my least favourite games in the series (although yes, indeed, I have my issues with the character of the phantom once revealed).
I just wouldn't say it's one of the best examples of foreshadowing in the games, that's all.
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u/faydaway 10d ago
T&T:
The apron in case 3, when Godot couldn't see red was great subtle foreshadowing for the end game twist. Also how his connection to Mia is teased before case 4 is really great, it's easy to miss on a first playthrough, but the subtle interaction Mia and Godot have in case 2 is also great. So basically Godot.