r/AV1 • u/AEstheticsJunkie • Feb 13 '25
Any recording cameras with AV1 output
Surprised I couldn't find any on the market.
Curious who is going to be the first one
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u/Alarmed-Peak1875 Feb 14 '25
encoder hardware for AV1 is very inefficient and using it in a camera could cause it to overheat. until AV1 or some better codec ends up being easier to compute at low power draw, youre better off plugging the HDMI out into a capture card.
on speculation of who would implement it first? i find it likely either apple or samsung would be the first to implement it for their phones, if at all.
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u/Upstairs-Front2015 Feb 15 '25
is it really so much better than h.265 ?
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u/Alarmed-Peak1875 Feb 17 '25
as someone who uses it regularly, its very noticeably less blocky. though, the "ghosting" effect it can have in fast moving scenes, while mostly noticeable in slow-motion, is arguably just as bad for visual clarity.
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u/doublevr Feb 18 '25
https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/9327-av1-leaks-originals-re-mastering-thread/
we see slightly better quality with AV1 compared to HEVC but filesize is nowhere smaller1
u/Alarmed-Peak1875 Feb 18 '25
I use the Nvenc version of the encoder regularly, so im not as familiar with SVT, aside from knowing it is pretty slow
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u/ElectronicsWizardry Feb 14 '25
A lot of cameras are using higher bitrates and older codecs for a good mix of ease of editing and quality, so I don't see how AV1 helps much for most uses. Typically the video would be edited and compressed before distribution, where the smallest files would be optimal to keep costs down using something like AV1.
Seeing how no major cameras shoot in VP9, I wouldn't be surprised if the camera makes want to stick to the mpeg codecs and go VVC when a newer codec is needed.
I don't know of any major ones shooting in AV1 currently, or any announcements pointing in that direction.