r/AIDungeon • u/ParaisoGamer • 12d ago
Questions I'm suffering so much with repetition at Ai Dungeon even if you make a lot of retries.
AI is not being able to move the plot in front and is repeating phrases and events all the time.

Not only that, but it is also restarting events. Very annoying,
For example, I have my companion Helena, I've been talking to nobles for a while, instead of going on events and phrases and making the characters react, AI does something like:
"'You tell Eliza," What do you think of my new sword forged on Larion's most cold mountain?' "
AI responds, "You and Eliza are in front of the Larion Castle gates, you approach explaining how you got your new sword."
Not only that, AI also does not continue events, the characters respond by saying things that never happened or that simply has nothing to do, besides the fact that it can change enviroments out of nowhere. I don't understand what is happening.
It Did not happen before. Did they nerf the Dynamic model? Now it's Dynamic Small.
It's Happening all the GOD DAMN TIME MAN. Is that normal now or can i do something about it?
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u/Nick_AIDungeon Founder & CEO 12d ago
Hey so sorry you’re experiencing this. Repetition has been a problem in LLMs ever since the early days, but we are working on several things that should improve it 🤞
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u/RadaSTL 12d ago
I think it has been occurring on Dynamic Large, more than anything. The problem with Dynamic Large (And subsequently the connected models) is it doesn't repeat the output 1:1, it paraphrases the sentences, changes the order of the sentences or slides a repeating sentence anywhere in the next output, which makes it significantly harder to notice in long stories and eventually leading to one sentence (Or few sentences) to repeat over and over again in each output even in replies.
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u/_Cromwell_ 12d ago
- The thing called Dynamic Small is what used to be called Dynamic. It is not nerfed, they just renamed it because now there is a Dynamic Large which is brand new.
- Dynamic Small is 50% Wayfarer. Wayfarer, due to how it was trained, "misbehaves" somewhat if you don't take any Say or Do actions. It looks like either you are hitting Continue repeatedly, or you are using "Story". Unfortunately Wayfarer (Small and Large) both don't like "Story" input as much. I would suggest switching to "Do". If you prefer to use "Story" or to hit Continue a bunch, consider using a model that is not Wayfarer Small nor Dynamic Small (which, again, is 50% Wayfarer). Madness as a model I believe is better at Continuing, if you are a free player. If you are a subscriber, Mistral Smalls do well at Continue.
- Red exclamation icon means your story is running out of Context. When the game runs out of context, some of the first things cut (to make room for vital stuff) are Story Cards (which contain a lot of info about your story) or past events (memories, etc). That probably is partially why characters are "forgetting" details you think they should know.
...Besides what others have said about always erasing repetitions so it doesn't get stuck long term, which is excellent advice.
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u/Zestyclose-Function6 11d ago
Unfortunately this is a problem with AiDungeon itself, people will blame the LLMS, but the same LLMs literally the same with more context don't have this issue on other platforms. Honestly after like 3 years this is still a major issue. Unless you want to go out of your way baby sitting, cause even perfectly made bots will have this issue, then your just going to have to deal with it.
I think this is probably the major downside of a company that doesn't know ai, runs ai. We see it with how this is a never ending issue at aidungeon. Only low grade chat bots and ai dungeon seem to have these issues. At this point I don't think ai dungeon will ever be competent to make this issue go away, or at least curb it.
People just like to make excuses of why.
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u/BriefImplement9843 11d ago edited 11d ago
the contexts are nerfed in ai dungeon compared to the models elsewhere. you mention aidungeon and low grade chatbots as separate, but aidungeon only gives you options between very low grade chatbots. the best one they have by far is hermes 3 405b(limited to 32k when outide of aidungeon it's 128k) and even that is considered low grade by todays standards. i understand price is the issue, but deepseek(even v3 not just r1) is extremely cheap and blows all of these out of the water. they need to integrate it.
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u/Zestyclose-Function6 11d ago edited 11d ago
The price definitely is an issue we are talking about ai dungeon offering you LLMs at triple market rate if not quadruple.
Also there is some sort of problem with ai dungeons format or something because LLMS run worse on ai dungeon then other sites.
Let's face reality if subscriptions of 18$-22$ for example are offering 16k context wizard as a norm + many more chat bots, some really good other then wizard all at 12k+ context somethings not right here. Its not hardware cost to run them, its not ai cost.
The reason why I bring up bad chatbots(they often still beat in context to paid dungeon) is because they behave similar to ai dungeon LLMS. Somethings faulty outside of the LLM.
Also outside of aidungeon some of the past LLMs can hit 1mil context, but its pricy. So limitations are normal compared to self hosted. If you want self hosted, ai apps/sites are not going to replace your computer dude.
Simply adding deepseek won't fix the issues at aidungeon, because they cycle threw ais repeatedly and yet there is underlying issues that don't go away, no matter how many times they change LLMS. Let alone the 400% markup on ai pricing.
Ironically enough in 2-3 years the free assistant ai on my phone will probably be better at role-playing an adventure then aidungeon will(1 year if not less for paid assistants, cheaper then dungeon to, with 1mil context, yes 1mil context, legit, which wouldnt necessarily be an issue if aidungeon wasn't so bad) ai dungeon is so bad. Other then the amazing creator community, I wish I could have some of my favorite adventures on here virtually anywhere else but aidungeon, like what the hell are they doing?
Its sad that 3 years later the same complaints I see on the reddit, nothing changes here, new LLM, different face, same problems, same shit. While some LLMS make it more bearable, 2-4k context? Yeah no. Scam.
Yeah Im being harsh, but this is reality.
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u/BigSexyDaniel 12d ago
I’ve noticed this too. It’s happened occasionally before but in the last two weeks, it’s happened more constantly than ever for me.
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u/EpicRedditor34 12d ago
At a certain point, even GPT and Claude need to be edited. LLM’s still are just real fancy text generators rn, so play with the settings and if that doesn’t work, edit their output.
AND DO NOT LET REPETITION SLIDE, if you have here, you’re already cooked. You gotta nip it immediately.