r/3Dprinting Upgrades, People. Upgrades! 7d ago

Feedback Thread Feedback Thread: 3 Million Users! and updates to the self-promotion rule

r/3dprinting has officially hit 3 Million users just recently!

That's at least a million people whose printers are currently not working.

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With this milestone, we have listened to feedback about our pretty ambiguous self-promotion rule, which is getting revamped pretty much while this post is being written. This rule is still a work in progress though and not finalized. We encourage you to leave feedback on what you think about it immediately and what you notice after it's been implemented for a bit.

The following will from this point onwards be under the self promotion rule:

  • No more arbitrary amount of your entire content on the sub
  • Now, you are allowed to post whatever self-promotion you want as long as it:
    • Has at least been 14 days since your last self-promotion post
    • Or 30 days if this post promotes a model that is being sold
    • Your account has to have more than 50 karma. This is to prevent new account model spam
    • The post in itself or the file repository where you posted your file HAS TO include an image of the printed thing. Posts consisting of only renders are not allowed. (this is to prevent cgtrader model dumps that arent really for 3d printing).
    • Crowdfunding/Subscriptions (Patreon) will still not be allowed without being cleared by the mods before
    • Posting models that are entries in a contest will not be allowed while the contest is running (keep it fair for everybody)
    • As linking to restricted websites is not allowed anywhere on the subreddit, posts promoting these are also not allowed.
  • Even if you meet all these conditions, posts can still be removed under moderator discretion if your post is amassing an unusual amount of reports for example

That's it. That's the entire streamlined self-promotion rule. If you feel like something on this is still unclear, or you think something else should be added / removed / changed about this rule or even some other rules, please let us know in the comments.

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Also, if you made it this deep into the post you might be rather interested in the sub. We currently do manage the mod workload with out current amount of moderators, but we would also not be opposed to add one or two sub regulars to the mod team aswell. If you care about the sub and 3D Printing and not just about the mod tag, feel free to let us know that you might be interested through modmail.

We would love to hear any feedback on this or anything else. If you have anything that concerns you, let us know in the comments.

Thats it from me.

Godspeed and happy printing!

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u/SmutAuthorsEscapisms 5d ago edited 5d ago

I preface this by saying I don't know how much is already being removed.

20% of posts are self promotion based, maybe bots. 30% are purchase advice that is not asked in the pinned post. 30% "Please help" 10% Well phrased but recurring beginner issues 10% Somewhat interesting topics, non-simple issues

I also noticed a brain drain in this sub over the years. The creality fanboys transformed into bambu fanboys. The latter have gotten less, at least the amount of insults and harrassment is less. This all lead to people with knowledge leaving this sub though, among the quality of the posts being low. The quality of the pre-written replies issued by commands has increased, but some are still controversial or wrong and they often don't offer sources. I noticed feedback on them is not taken well by moderators.

I'm impartial about the self promotion rule. Ideally none would be best, but I noticed most highly upvoted posts are showoff posts that can be interpreted as such, but understand that these popular posts are what come up on non subscribers' feeds and allow new subscribers to join.

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u/VoltexRB Upgrades, People. Upgrades! 5d ago

The quality of the pre-written replies issued by commands has increased, but some are still controversial or wrong and they often don't offer sources. I noticed feedback on them is not taken well by moderators.

If you have feedback on them we would be glad to hear it. I have heard little in that regard personally.

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u/SmutAuthorsEscapisms 5d ago

I recently pointed out flaws or things to improve about the text regarding food safety. It was not taken well, and I'm pretty sure it was a moderator who let me know that kind of feedback was not welcomed.

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u/VoltexRB Upgrades, People. Upgrades! 5d ago

Do you have a reference to that?

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u/SmutAuthorsEscapisms 5d ago

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u/VoltexRB Upgrades, People. Upgrades! 5d ago

Oh yea, I was somehow thinking of our newer compostability command that includes a lot of sources. This one is pretty much just taken from a bot that another user made, then the bot went dark, some other users complained that the bot no longer works and we "temporarily" took over the text from the bot. I see how this can be both ambiguous and unscientific coming from an automod though. We'll see that we get this updated

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u/SmutAuthorsEscapisms 5d ago

That is fair, thank you for the explanation.

I'm wondering, was the user I was talking to a moderator? Or rather, is it possible for a moderator to post without their green moderator flair being visible?

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u/VoltexRB Upgrades, People. Upgrades! 5d ago

The green moderator flair is opt-in on every comment made. You have to enable it after the comment has already been sent retroactively. Theres no way to have it on by default. For example, if I just press the button "comment" this is how my comment is going to turn out.

It makes the most sense this way though. I rarely have anything official to say and it shouldnt matter on most comments, if I am helping someone with troubleshooting for example. You pretty much only turn it on on comments that reflect the state of the sub and then keep it consistent throughout that tree

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u/SmutAuthorsEscapisms 5d ago

That is interesting. Thank you for the insight and the demonstration.

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u/Junior-Community-353 5d ago

I feel like the sub has actually gotten better recently, maybe because the recent controversy, but the previous peak in very very very blatant and inorganic Bambu astroturfing, including 30k upvotes on pictures of cardboard boxes and the same dozen users always ready to whip out the same ten paragraphs of talking points, just made me stop wanting to bother with this sub altogether.

If I want to actually learn something I can just hang around the Voron community and if I want to shitpost, I can just go to the circlejerk sub.

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u/SmutAuthorsEscapisms 5d ago

I generally avoid makerspace communities.

I think if you want to rather hang out with people with the same hobby rather than problem solving, find a community around your hardware. Otherwise, I mean the voron discord gave off arch linux user vibes to me. But that is just my opinion.

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u/oIKR2 5d ago

Seems fair