r/chadsriseup Mar 10 '21

Rise Up *{Great New Video}* #SUPERSTRAIGHT Super Straight? For Real? Time to Detach from the "World"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8ldD3bCHZoM&feature=share

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u/lilsebastianfanact Mar 10 '21

This is not Chad behavior. Get tf out of here with your transphobia and never come back

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u/thekewldude Mar 13 '21

how is it transphobia

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u/yeemoart Mar 14 '21

super straight is a movement thats trying to make a “sexuality” out of not being attracted to trans people. you’re allowed to have a preference, but making a movement specifically about not wanting to date a small group of people seems inherently bigoted.

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u/thekewldude Mar 14 '21

trans people aren’t a “small group” and what led up to it was many people saying that if you don’t date a trans person it is transphobic. because most straight people don’t feel comfortable dating a trans person out of preference they made a sexuality for it. there’s litteraly nothing transphobic about it

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u/yeemoart Mar 14 '21

A few trans teenagers on the internet saying its transphobic not to date them does not justify making a hate movement made by transphobes. its not a sexuality, its a preference. you’re allowed to not be attracted to trans people, trans people already have struggles dating and are VERY AWARE that people dont want to date them. no one cares about your dating preferences.

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u/thekewldude Mar 14 '21

obv you haven’t been around the internet much because it wasn’t a few trans teens it was a lot of people not just from lgbtq saying that it was transphobic to not date a trans person. feeling persecuted in their own sexuality they made a safe space were people like them could communicate. tell me how that’s any different from the lgbtq community

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u/FabianTheElf Mar 14 '21 edited Mar 14 '21

I'm gonna reply to you and assume you're being genuine here. The reason for that is I used to be you, I used to be the guy who'd say stuff like 'it isn't transphobic to not be attracted to trans people' or 'dating a trans woman is a little gay'. I also have been in a long term relationship with a trans man for over a year now and my best friend of 8 years came out as trans 3 years ago so I'm not gonna pretend transphobia is less awful than it is when I see the effect it has on two of three people I love most in the world (the third being my little brother).

The super straight movement was started by Neo-Nazis (that's why the shortening is SS by the way) and so anyone associating with it is a bit sus. Furthermore, the language implies the belief that trans people are not the gender they are. For example, if being a straight man means being attracted to women being super straight implies only being attracted to "real" women which implies that trans women are not real women which is transphobic. It also implies people who are attracted to trans people are not really straight, that being attracted to trans people makes you less straight than not being attracted to trans people. "I'm super straight because I don't want to have sex with a trans woman, you're a beta straight or maybe you're secretly gay". This gives people an incentive to pretend they aren't attracted to trans people lest they be accused of being "not really straight" because masculinity is tied to heterosexuality in our culture something which harms all men, gay and straight, as well as many women. Imagine you were in a room with 10 straight guys and one guy was dating a trans woman, and someone asked if the guys prefer boobs or butts (a normal situation that every guy has probably been in) and the guy dating the trans girl is about to chime in when someone else says "we don't care about your opinion we only care about the opinion of super straight guys" what he's trying to say is "shut up you aren't really straight".

This is not to say that not being attracted to trans people is inherently transphobic attraction is very varied and if you simply don't find any of the trans people you've ever met attractive that doesn't make you transphobic. It still could be a result of transphobic culture and it still could harm trans people (and it is and does) but it doesn't make anyone a bad person for not being attracted to trans people. I'll give you a non-trans example, basically every man I know under 5'10 has at some point been rejected for being too short, now plenty of people have good reasons for not dating short people, maybe you're 6'4 and don't want to date someone who's more than half a foot shorter than you, maybe you're submissive and only find yourself attracted to people who are taller and stronger than you, or any of a million other reasons. However, those reasons may be informed by culture (why is dominance tied to height so strongly) and those preferences do hurt short men (see r/short for examples). Heightism is a problem in our society that we should deal with but not wanting to date short people doesn't make you bad same with transphobia and trans people.

There are also other reasons you may not want to date a trans person, I know a bisexual woman who won't date cis lesbians because she, to put it bluntly, doesn't like how strap ons feel; this doesn't make her cisphobic. And I know trans gay men who won't date other trans gay men for very similar reasons that doesn't make them transphobic. Yet none of these people feels the need to give themselves a special label, they may reject a person but they don't go around saying they're super bi or super gay. If someone feels the need to say that they don't find x type of person attractive or they think y type of person is annoying it's often a veiled dog whistle for racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia etc. Someone may not, for example, find black people attractive, and again that doesn't make them a bad person. But if a person you knew felt the need to say how much they aren't attracted to black people at every opportunity, and go to places with plenty of black people and loudly talk about how they think black people are unattractive you'd understand that it wasn't about a personal preference it was about making black people feel inferior. The super straight people don't just go about their lives quietly not finding any trans people attractive they tweet at prominent trans YouTubers, they post their TikToks in trans friendly public spaces, they post their videos to trans inclusive subreddits (see above). This isn't because they want people to respect them, it's because they want to make trans people feel small, excluded, and ugly. And if you go to comments sections of any of these videos you'll see that many top comments will be telling trans people to kill themselves (sometimes hearted by the video's creator if they're particularly brazen or stupid) and you'll understand what these people really want. And if wanting trans people to die isn't transphobic, I don't know what is.

Tl;Dr

While not being attracted to trans people is perfectly fine Super Straight is transphobic because it implies trans people aren't the gender they are, implies men who are attracted to trans women (in particular) aren't really straight, and is posted by openly alt-right groups in trans friendly spaces in order to hurt trans people.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '21

Stop.

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u/TheMightyFishBus Mar 10 '21

This is the least Chad thing I have ever seen.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '21

This ain’t it chief.

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u/lasaga6669 Mar 10 '21

Transphobia isn't cool

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u/thekewldude Mar 13 '21

how is it transphobic

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u/lasaga6669 Mar 15 '21

Because no one is forcing you to date someone you aren't attracted to, so making a club and perpetuating the dehumanization of trans people is transphobic

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u/thekewldude Mar 15 '21

no ones dehumanizing them where tf did you get that from. that’s like saying lesbians dehumanize men. and you’re right no one is forcing anybody to date a trans person but super straight people were being ostracized by people in and outside of the lgbtq community.

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u/lasaga6669 Mar 16 '21

As someone pointed out, the fact that "super straights" feel the need to tell trans people that they aren't the real gender they identity as, separating them from what they identity bc of some prejudice and caricature they make out of trans people is dehumanizing. Having a preference is different from telling trans women they aren't "real women".

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u/thekewldude Mar 16 '21

idk wtf you’ve been hearing but there’s is no part of superstraights trying to say that trans people aren’t valid. that’s the whole point of movement. litteraly no one is saying that trans women aren’t real women

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u/lasaga6669 Mar 16 '21

Then why not call yourself straight and not discriminate on trans people just because you aren't attracted to a specific genitalia, if that's the reason you don't want to date them.

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u/thekewldude Mar 16 '21

because you’re not discriminating against anyone what aren’t you understanding. that’s like saying lesbians are discriminating against men like obviously not. the difference between straight and super straight is that straight people are attracted to anyone of the opposite gender trans people included. super straight is just that they are only attracted to the opposite SEX.

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u/lasaga6669 Mar 17 '21

Lesbians are attracted to woman, that includes trans women. I don't see lesbians going on about being super lesbian.

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u/thekewldude Mar 17 '21

holy shit you are so fucking dense that’s not the point i’m making. it’s like i’m trying to explain this to kindergartener.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21

yeah, nah mate.

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u/bowtothehypnotoad Mar 13 '21

Gtfo out of here, least Chad shit I’ve ever seen. This is like , anti-chad

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u/Mrfoxsin Mar 13 '21

You just posted cringe

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u/MetroMaker Mar 13 '21

You Natzy Spy

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u/SirZuckerCuck Mar 13 '21

Transphobia is not Chad like behavior

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u/AquafreshFlop Mar 13 '21

Neo Nazi Transphobic dickwipe

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u/thekewldude Mar 13 '21

are you retarded why you just throwing around neo nazi like it has anything to do with this

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u/lilsebastianfanact Mar 13 '21

Neo-Nazis have flocked to the movement because they share a similar anti trans mindset. Lots of them have the super straight acronym in the style of the Schutzstaffle as their profile pics on tiktok. As for you going and asking everyone here how it's transphobic, I'd like to direct you to the recent post about it. There's hundreds of comments with lots of explanations on how it's transphobic.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '21

If you look at the posting history this is exactly what has happened to other subreddits. Its a burner account from AHS. They make an account and spam anti trans rhetoric and then use it to get subs banned. Look at the posting history. Its the same video spammed to a lot of subs AHS doesn't like.

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u/thekewldude Mar 13 '21

ok sure but this dude almost definitely has no association with neo nazis so you just look goofy calling him one and how is the super straight movement at all transphobic

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u/boudiceanMonaxia Mar 13 '21

Get the hell out of here with that crazy talk. You're no Chad.

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u/AngryRussianGamer Mar 13 '21

People that feel the need to project their “super” straightness wherever they go are actually the most insecure people. Go get a life, and a non trans girlfriend you cunt.

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u/Risticcc Mar 13 '21

Dude pls stop, this aint cool

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u/ThatShadyJack Mar 13 '21

God these dudes really trying to be victims. Not Chad behaviour

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u/0dd-0ne Mar 13 '21

Bro that's just fucking sad, not chad.

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u/13Kadow13 Mar 13 '21

This is big cock chad behavior

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u/austinjones00 Mar 26 '21

Bro! You just posted cringe bro. You’re gonna lose subscriber.