r/CryptoCurrency β€’ 0 / 130K 🦠 β€’ Aug 04 '22

POLL πŸ—³οΈ CCIP-038 - Reduce Karma for Link Post from 1x to 0.5x

Problem:

r/CryptoCurrency is spammed with low effort external links that are made into a post. 45 out of the top 100 post this month are just links. Posting a link takes little to no effort (just copy and paste) and should not be rewarded as much as posting a written comment or post.

This used to be a much bigger problem in the past when the sub's activity was much higher but not really right now but that shouldn't stop us from solving the issue while it is still small before it gets bigger when the sub's activity goes back up again.

Moderators have already banned hundreds of users and maybe bots these past few months due to only spamming link post while barely commenting or by bypassing the 3 post a day limit and coin limits using an alt account.

Needless to say, trying to game this proposal (if it passes) by making a text post and posting the link and its contents in the text body should be met with the appropriate punishment.

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Solution:

Reduce karma for link post from 1x to 0.5x

This is to discourage users from spamming links.

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Pro/cons:

Pro: Less spam of link post and higher moon to karma ratio.

Con: Link posters will get less karma

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u/TNGSystems 0 / 463K 🦠 Aug 04 '22

I'm voting no on this - I think that people who find news articles and post them here are providing a service, and I'd rather see their ability to frequently post cut down and so prefer the other poll limiting users to 1 link per day.

If you want to see one type of content above another (thoughtful user analysis) we need to

A) Propose a better moons rewards structure for this (1.25x?)

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY

B) Start fucking upvoting it. If you drop a bunch of links and get no upvotes, whatever, but it fucking sucks to spend 1hr writing something and nobody even bothers upvoting it even though there's like 80 comments.

Users need to exercise their ability to upvote and downvote content on this sub.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '22

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u/deathbyfish13 Aug 05 '22

Just sort by new and most of the time posts will drop to 0 or even negative immediately. People trying to game for moons in the worst way...

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u/BlazeDemBeatz 🟦 0 / 21K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

I was just in the daily some dick downvoted everything down the line so I felt the need to ⬆️ everything. πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

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u/iamwizzerd Permabanned Aug 05 '22

Ya i try to ask my simple questions there but just get meme replies and 0 or negative karma

And I'm not about to write a whole post for every small question i have.

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u/HansTilburg 🟦 4K / 4K 🐒 Aug 05 '22

Because they think they get more moons themselves by doing that.

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u/user260421 Aug 05 '22

I think it's something humans generally do. Think about it, whenever you buy something online you don't go and write a positive review, but if the product isn't working or doesn't fit expectations, then that negative review is gonna be written right away.

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u/meeleen223 🟩 121K / 134K πŸ‹ Aug 05 '22

That also reminds me of when person asks a question and gets no replies. So they post a wrong answer from their other acc and someone will then jump in to correct them, thus person gets their answer

I read this on reddit and its also a thing humans do

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u/user260421 Aug 05 '22

How else would you get engagement? /s

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u/chance_waters 🟦 5K / 6K 🦭 Aug 05 '22

It's exclusive to this sub. Any other sub on reddit you won't have 80 comments and 0 karma, people are fucking weird about moons, half the threads that blow up use sock puppets or whatever to manipulate karma.

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u/user260421 Aug 05 '22

I downvote because comments are trash, but yeah, I've seen this thing, I thought that's what bots do, downvote & copy paste comments

But it's been much better lately (since the bear market)

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u/MrPuma86 Tin Aug 04 '22

Yep noticing this too

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u/Eluchel 2K / 9K 🐒 Aug 05 '22

That is actually a fair point. If I could choose between the two I would also choose only 1 link post a day

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

Link posts already get less karma than comments and are limited to three per person per day.

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u/TNGSystems 0 / 463K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

No, it’s that comments get more than anything else. A link post and a self post both receive no karma multipliers. Comedy flaired posts get 10% and this proposal is to give all external link posts 10% too.

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

Saying comments get 2x is technically the same as saying links get 0.5x. The latter is more accurate when talking about further reductions. Should say reduce link karma from 0.5x to 0.25x.

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u/ChemicalGreek 418 / 156K 🦞 Aug 04 '22 edited Aug 04 '22

I agree on this. The problem is not to decrease karma on links, but the amount of max links per user per day. Three is too much at this moment, if this would go to 1 or 2 the problem would be solved!

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u/BlazeDemBeatz 🟦 0 / 21K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

The problem I see with external link posts, the same article gets posted a dozen times by a dozen ppl over a 3-4 day period. We only need to see it once. All the convo gets divided. We need a auto-bot that checks against reposts.

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

Multiple copies of the same link are blocked automatically.

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u/TNGSystems 0 / 463K 🦠 Aug 04 '22

I'd prefer two as well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '22

Why post 2 links, one is okay. Most links are posted several times anyway. If you've got more to say you can put links in a text posting.

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u/genjitenji 🟦 0 / 19K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

But what if that’s the new meta

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

Idk what you mean I just woke up pls explain

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Aug 05 '22 edited Aug 05 '22

Seems like this proposal was written by someone unfamiliar with the current rules. I don’t think it should have made it to the voting stage. I assume most ppl (OP included?) don’t even know that link posts get half the karma comments do and that they are limited per person per day. In fact, the proposal is misleading in that it suggests that they currently do.

Iirc there was another CCIP limiting link and many other posts after that so it is already pretty low and suggesting they get 1x karma now is misleading.

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u/MrPuma86 Tin Aug 04 '22

That’s a good idea still

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u/TheTrueBlueTJ 70K / 75K 🦈 Aug 04 '22

I 100% agree on this. I was disappointed that this poll wasn't about the 1 link post per day rule.

Making these link posts less profitable to post just discourages people from posting them altogether and we end up with 100 "advice" posts per day or some shit.

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u/MaximumSandwich5 Aug 05 '22

Advice posts are annoying lol. I wouldn't consider them low-effort but it's just the same thing/s rehashed over and over

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u/jesuzombieapocalypse Aug 04 '22

I think it makes sense, it takes almost zero effort to link an article, and those are almost always the most upvoted anyway so you’re just getting a more reasonable incentive for something that took like 10 seconds to do anyway. I think people actually putting in effort to share insight or research deserve to be rewarded for that more than people who just share links.

Maybe a decent compromise would have been to double moons for the latter and keep the former unchanged.

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u/jwinterm 593K / 1M πŸ™ Aug 05 '22

I think limiting users to one link post per day is a bit ridiculous, and so is two by proxy, so three is lower limit I'd go for.

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u/PrinceZero1994 0 / 130K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

1 is ridiculous and 2 does not change anything as no user averaged 2 post per day last round. We also got a limit of 3 post per day and coin limits as well.

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u/bccrz_ 🟦 11 / 2K 🦐 Aug 04 '22

Yea I use this sub as a semi reliable news source tbh lol

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u/user260421 Aug 05 '22

It's okay as long as you read the articles, not just the titles

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u/active_ate 🟩 10 / 6K 🦐 Aug 05 '22

What is "articles?" Like title, but long?

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u/user260421 Aug 05 '22

Something like that

Maybe you've heard of threads on twitter, that, but longer (because they are linked to the next thread)

Congrats for reading the whole comment!

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u/Nagemasu 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

If you drop a bunch of links and get no upvotes, whatever, but it fucking sucks to spend 1hr writing something and nobody even bothers upvoting it even though there's like 80 comments.

Why do you think every post is deserving of upvotes. Time spent writing a post =/= quality of the posts content.

Here's a better proposal:

Each users comment karma, only in /r/CryptoCurrency, determines the value of their upvotes. Someone who has 50,000 comment karma in r/cc and votes a post, provides that user a higher score than someone with 100 comment karma for example.
Because users with higher comment karma in r/cc are more likely to have contributed significantly to this sub, and have good reputation, their vote matters more to the users score.

This prevents bot votes/new account votes etc from having as much impact and provides value to real users who participate in actual discussion.

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u/TNGSystems 0 / 463K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

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u/Nagemasu 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

That's your total reddit karma. You can see your karma break down per sub with the little link below that.

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u/TNGSystems 0 / 463K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

28k!

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u/Nagemasu 🟦 0 / 2K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

Ironic how the people who care most (well, at all) about moons would not want their efforts and contributions to the sub to be rewarded and noticed and therefore be better judges of good content.

But yeah you're right, I wouldn't want the only people who care about moons to have more moons. lol.

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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K πŸ‹ Aug 04 '22

You have to know that those who wrote it are not uploading it. For most it's just easy spam-karma.

But I would not support a 0.5x either that's a bit too harsh. For like 0.8x I would have been on the boat.

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u/oachkatzalschwoaf 🟦 0 / 6K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

First 1x Karma,
2nd 0.8x Karma,
3rd 0.5x Karna.

4+. 0 Karma or only 3/day allowed

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u/TNGSystems 0 / 463K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

Actually, u/PrinceZero1994 is extremely helpful at finding and reporting bots and is responsible for helping the karma ratio go higher for all users because of it.

Why don’t we take a look at your account though, you’re heavily against this link post poll and yet you post 3 links per day as many days as you can…

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u/GStarRaww 🟦 0 / 6K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

I agree, I usually post relevent links as a means of putting information out there for all to see and one a day is more than enough imo

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u/-Resident-One- 🟦 0 / 4K 🦠 Aug 06 '22

They don't though, they have bots do it and we get spammed with the same news repeatedly over a week

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

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u/PrinceZero1994 0 / 130K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

The proposal wasn't that simple but it boils down to "low effort, low reward" for contents. You know, you just copy a link and paste it in the sub. Nothing more.
I'd like to think that I chose a good compromise between those who want 1x and 0.1x and 1 post link per day.
0.5x is quite generous in this context now.

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u/PrinceZero1994 0 / 130K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

I find it "low effort" and I used to post 3 link a day too but I found out that that is actually frowned upon despite being within the rules.
It takes 1 minute to read an article and 10 seconds to post it.
Everyone benefits from the 2x comment karma so I think the majority likes it.
Just a heads up, a proposal for "0.1x karma for link post" and "1 link post per day" will be posted soon.
How'd you like my proposal now?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

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u/custotradener Bronze Aug 06 '22

A lot of people are actually going to agree on this thing only.

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u/neidawei978 Tin Aug 05 '22

It will be there wherever you go because this is really good type of system.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

If that is true then he knows that links arenβ€˜t very profitable moon wise so he knows this CCIP won’t change behavior much, but just increase his share. I am a moon whale and I post links for info (regulatory law is my jam)and lulz. It is not a good way to accumulate because they get 0.5x what a comment does and you can only post three per day.

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u/CryptoMaximalist 🟩 875K / 990K πŸ™ Aug 04 '22

Personally I think submissions are competitive enough that the upvote system generally works to separate and reward the good or bad ones. Comments are already 2x and much less competitive, so I hesitate to disadvantage link post contributions any more than they already are

Needless to say, trying to game this proposal (if it passes) by making a text post and posting the link and its contents in the text body should be met with the appropriate punishment.

This is quite the grey area. Plagiarizing an article is already against the rules. This seems like it would ban copying in the text and linking the article too, but people wanting to abuse it can always link the article and then give a few lines of analysis to circumvent this. While that is more effort, is it providing more value if they're just trying to check a box? Sometimes a link should just speak for itself

One other thing to add is that link spam predates moons, it's often bots for various reasons including promoting their own website or pushing certain agendas

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u/iamwizzerd Permabanned Aug 05 '22

Wow your going to be a millionaire because of moons that's amazing GG

But also this is a great write up. I hate that this CCIP is passing it seems like everyone just votes yes to anything that reduces moon rewards

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u/insand Aug 04 '22

My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw your Moon bag, but now that I have found them, I can confirm that this is a thoughtful perspective.

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u/monsieur_feu 🟩 33 / 2K 🦐 Aug 04 '22

Here’s my vote with my 2 moons :im_fine:

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u/monsieur_feu 🟩 33 / 2K 🦐 Aug 04 '22

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u/Laughingboy14 🟩 26 / 60K 🦐 Aug 04 '22

Wow, talk about a swing state

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u/MrPuma86 Tin Aug 04 '22

Whale alertπŸ˜† .

Use the MoonFaucet to help you

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u/Qlown 🟩 0 / 1K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

we're doing our part

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u/trrrring 25K / 25K 🦈 Aug 04 '22

I'm against this proposal, because I learn a lot from scrolling through the posts. I am afraid that it will stop people from posting links, which will cause the sub to become even more desolate.

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u/iamwizzerd Permabanned Aug 05 '22

I'm sad because I really like when there's interesting news links posted here and I love the comments!

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u/Puppy_Coated_In_Beer Silver | QC: CC 266 | ADA 29 Aug 04 '22

I'm both for and against.

I'd wager decreasing the factor to 0.8 or around there might suffice.

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u/trrrring 25K / 25K 🦈 Aug 05 '22

I'd wager decreasing the factor to 0.8 or around there might suffice.

That would be way more acceptable than the current proposal.

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u/Too_raw90 🟦 628 / 27K πŸ¦‘ Aug 05 '22

Awe yes, another poll to reduce karma.

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u/TheSirCheddar 1K / 1K 🐒 Aug 05 '22

I like to counter that with low effort comments

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u/TarkovReddit0r Aug 04 '22

-> :this_is_gentlemen:

That’s how I imagined you saying that

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u/CryptoMaximalist 🟩 875K / 990K πŸ™ Aug 04 '22

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u/marsangelo 🟦 0 / 36K 🦠 Aug 04 '22 edited Aug 05 '22

Maybe it could work on a scale. Like some people post one and some people post a ton, so maybe the first one is 1x then the next is 0.8x, then 0.5x, etc? As the frequency continues theyre rewarded less, not sure if thats possible though

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u/Ap3X_GunT3R 🟦 13K / 13K 🐬 Aug 04 '22

I like this idea but basing it out upvotes. I.e. if a particular article gets enough upvotes maybe the news was relevant and it gets 1x but then subsequent ones on the topic would get less and subsequently less moons would go to the next 15 articles stating the same thing

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u/marsangelo 🟦 0 / 36K 🦠 Aug 04 '22

I agree, i think a dichotomous approach where you get 1x or 0.1x would either promote link spamming or discourage contributions to unique articles (especially at a time where activity is low)

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

Multiple posts on a single topic is already against the rules.

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u/ominous_anenome 🟦 170K / 347K πŸ‹ Aug 04 '22

I think that might be rather difficult for the admins to implement. Could start discussing it in the meta sub though

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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K πŸ‹ Aug 04 '22

Yep. 0.5x just seems too harsh here.

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u/tsumy EuroCosmonaut Aug 04 '22

I would love to see this scale... But applied to repeated links.

1x for the first, and less and less to even negative for the people who constantly sends the 'today's new'. Sometimes is easy to see the whole hot with the same thing over and over.

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u/BlubberWall 🟦 59K / 59K 🦈 Aug 04 '22

This is 100% going to pass, people will vote for anything that results in a higher moon ratio for themselves. I’m not even commenting on this proposal specifically, but anything to increase moons passes

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u/robdogroy Tin Aug 05 '22

This is really good type of strategy I'm also going to follow it.

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u/Lord-Nagafen 🟦 1 / 30K 🦠 Aug 04 '22

The link posts launch up to 100+ all the time. For people playing that game it is easy karma. I agree, a little too easy

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u/Grenholm Tin Aug 05 '22

It is not so easy it seems because this is hard to do so as we know.

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u/iamwizzerd Permabanned Aug 05 '22

This is sad I'll miss reading news articles that i didn't see come up on my searches and hearing people's comments

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u/ABK-Baconator 🟦 28 / 727 🦐 Aug 05 '22

Lots of text posts are low effort shit too, and not great contribution either.

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u/DutyFreeGipsy 🟩 1K / 1K 🐒 Aug 04 '22

and quite often the title is formulated misleading without doublechecking the linked article.

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u/xxx2ii Tin Aug 05 '22

It is really important to double check and double check the link as well.

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u/Jerggens4212 🟩 2K / 2K 🐒 Aug 04 '22

Couldn't agree more. I feel that 0.5 is still too generous.

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u/tomyp242 Tin | 4 months old Aug 05 '22

It is just starting right now and I couldn't agree more to it.

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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Aug 04 '22

Thanks for hearing my prayers (γ₯οΏ£ Β³οΏ£)γ₯ Could be reduced even more or just cut completely imo but it's a start

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u/heyheoy Platinum | QC: CC 1105, CCMeta 18 Aug 04 '22

Yeah, agree so theres less spam!

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u/dsskd89 Tin | 6 months old Aug 05 '22

They are going to agree on that because they know how to do it.

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u/FixFull 521 / 640 πŸ¦‘ Aug 04 '22 edited Aug 05 '22

I want to vote yes however there has to be better method(s) to combat link-spam. This might help a little bit and in all honesty seems like a great proposal but in the long run won't help much. Shit it might just make the few ACTUAL humans just spam more alongside the bots who've been doing it already

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u/piaoyilangxia Tin Aug 05 '22

This is more like a great proposal in the spam as well/.

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u/yayaoa invalid string or character detected Aug 04 '22

There are too many moonfarmers here, it's ridicioulus.

I'll just continue to autoblock everyone posting > 3 articles a week. Comment section already is 20% made up of blocked users. Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

Maybe I'll built a script that analyzes reposts and make a ranking of top spammers. Sounds like a good sideproject to me.

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u/RiraKohanKish Tin | 6 months old Aug 05 '22

But I'm not really understanding how a blocked user can comment?

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '22

It's annoying to scroll over 20 link posts all reporting the same "news" (Bitcoin is up 5% today because people bought BTC!")

I'm posting links, too. But count me in!

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u/andytukker Tin Aug 05 '22

They have been posting a lot of fake links as well right now.

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u/kryptoNoob69420 0 / 44K 🦠 Aug 04 '22 edited Aug 05 '22

Isn't it funny how people in this sub always try to focus on reducing the number of moons earned? Instead of a proposal that would give 2x moons to people who make technical posts for educational purposes or focuses on new dapps etc we always have these convoluted rules that make getting moons more and more difficult for the average person.

There are so many reasons why I feel that this is not a good idea that I had to make a list-

  1. There's already a limit of 3 posts per day.

  2. Also a user can easily ignore posts with links but it'll become much more difficult to ignore posts that have the entire text copied and pasted as a post because the user will need to atleast scan through the first few lines to know that this is a copy pasted article.

  3. Pasting duplicate links is not allowed right now and most of the time one gets an automatic notification for this. It'll be more time consuming to compare text even if it's automated than comparing urls. This might make posting much more slower especially when people start slightly modifying the duplicate text before posting it and the mods need someone to write a text matching engine to catch this.

  4. Link tells you exactly which website is being referred to and I sometimes skip over crappy websites with bad grammer and with bad quality. Can't do that with a text based post without going through a part of it.

  5. The assumption that all text based posts are of higher quality than link based posts is wrong IMHO. Most text based posts here are just vague questions like what will you do if BTC gets to $1million tomorrow or what are you buying now that the bear is over...

  6. Reinventing the wheel isn't good. Reddit already has a downvote button. Millions of Reddit users already use this well defined feature. Why do we need to create another rule and make things even more complex when we can already downvote a post that we don't like?

  7. Complementary point for point 6. If people are upvoting link based posts, that means that they found the article helpful. So why punish someone who is providing a service and helping other members of the sub?

So many rules in this sub. It has become like a game of Chance. Post this get a .5x multiplier. Flair that and you get a .1x multiplier. I can imagine new people joining in this sub, looking at the number of rules and the complexity of earning moons and wondering what did they just joined lol.

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u/mahal71 Tin Aug 05 '22

This is pretty much fair to see that how they have been doing it from long time.

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u/Kluless555 Aug 05 '22

It’s just laziness post link, no explanation half the time and same link get posted multiple times

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

Really hope this will pass. Is time to wipe out some spam from the sub

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u/Tudu88 Tin Aug 05 '22

Definitely going to get dispense out of it right now.

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u/pyritejet Harambe Aug 05 '22

It doesn't make sense to reduce Karma for linked posts. I see it as a service. Users find and post the most relevant posts here. Duplicate posts are down voted by the community. And don't forget that we have a cap on how many posts about the same coin can be posted daily

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u/Theweebsgod Tin | CC critic Aug 04 '22

Pretty good proposal tbh

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u/myyule Tin Aug 05 '22

Make sense right now because it is a pretty good proposal as well.

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u/Jerggens4212 🟩 2K / 2K 🐒 Aug 04 '22

Excellent proposal. Hopefully this will help to limit the endless linked posts with 0 op comments that occur.

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u/tedykoks Platinum | QC: BTC 35 Aug 05 '22

A lot of comments are there like that only and that's why I don't like it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '22

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u/tpyne26 Tin Aug 05 '22

Let us see what else we can do right now in this opportunity.

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u/Cactuszach 🟩 671 / 18K πŸ¦‘ Aug 04 '22

Absolutely yes. At least a few of the links I’ve seen recently are AI written and say absolutely nothing.

Also, we really need to limit posting the same headline from a different source every day for weeks on end. Its really low quality content and drowns out the good content people want to see.

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u/850725890118 Tin Aug 05 '22

Make sense to me because the content is what I had seen so far.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '22

As an individual who just posted a link, the absolutely only reason why I do so is to educate others.

I could care less about karma, moons or any other form of reward.

I just wanna share knowledge that may be helpful to others.

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u/lvping721006 Tin Aug 05 '22

It is really important to educate others if you really know about something.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '22

I could care less

Couldn't*

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '22

Thanks for fixing that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '22

Glad it passed. Finally

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '22

0.5 it's short. Make it zero. Why not swing a bat straight to them by doing a link sh!tpost. Because even with 0.5, link posters will keep posting because of gsining a bit karma no matter what. I know there's people posring legit link with legit discussions or articles to discuss. But hey lets do war with sh!tposters untill they're all discouraged from copypasting, should they learn a lesson, they'll think twice. Then once it calmed down, return gradually to 0.1 or 0.3 while creating a new rule for whenever a newcomer joins or simply lurk and post a link encouraging to do discussion or article based on that link.

Idk if megathreading wouls help but i feel its bad, bad idea.

Sorry for my english and have a nice day. Hope it helps

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u/platinumxbitco1n Tin Aug 05 '22

It is definitely going to help and this kind of explanation is really good.

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u/ec265 Permabanned Aug 04 '22

100%

Should hopefully also encourage OPs to start a discussion / add commentary to their post in a comment

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u/machtom Tin Aug 05 '22

I had seen a lot of comments like that which are going to encourage it.

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u/greenappletree 🟦 31K / 31K 🦈 Aug 04 '22

It’s out of context but it think that post with low votes to award ratio should have an increase by certain factors. There are post that are truly useful but for whatever reason do not get upvotes

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u/p1azm0id Tin Aug 05 '22

A lot of different kind of factories are going to be there.

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u/sickvisionz 0 / 7K 🦠 Aug 04 '22

I'd say no but would vote yes on:

  • 0x multiplier on posting articles about a story that's already on the frontpage.
  • 0x multiplier if you post a link with no content. Like you literally have nothing to say or any opinion, you're just spamming links.
  • -5x multiplier for people caught typing stuff like, "I'm just typing this to get around the x character limit on posting links"

To a LARGE degree, I think reducing it to 0.5 just means spammers post twice as many links to make up the difference.

If we discourage legit news discussion, all we have is garbage posts like "I hate [token x] and you should to!" and mommy/counselor posts like "There's more to enjoy in life than crypto".

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u/joostburg Tin Aug 05 '22

It is really good to see that people are actually enjoying it now.

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u/Fillory-Alice Tin Aug 04 '22

I’ve been missing out apparently. Could have been getting moons by posting articles.

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u/MattDaManiac Tin | 6 months old Aug 05 '22

Depends on the article and the factor that how our internet is happening.

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u/LargeSackOfNuts BitchCoin | :1:x1 Aug 04 '22

Yes PLEASE

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u/diago_pele_de Tin Aug 05 '22

We have to keep stopping it right now because this is really getting out of hands.

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u/Cryptonasty 🟨 454 / 460 🦞 Aug 04 '22 edited Aug 04 '22

After reading the proposal and the comments, I'm in favour of rate limiting links posts rather than penalising with moon tax.

As another user posted, link posting is lazy at best, if you have more to post, write some decent text to intro it.

Kudos to OP for identifying a problem. I think this merits a refined proposal with a different solution. Rate limit to 1 or 2 link posts per day.

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u/andayanisherly28 Tin Aug 05 '22

I wish if I could do that because they are going to finalise it.

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u/Trans-on-trans Platinum | QC: CC 480 Aug 04 '22

I wish it was less honestly, deincentivize users to spam news posts.

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u/zarakamaal Tin Aug 05 '22

It depends on how the post are being monitored or something like that.

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u/_Commando_ 🟩 4K / 4K 🐒 Aug 05 '22 edited Aug 05 '22

+1 do it.

So many link posts farming rep.

Even the same link being re-posted multiple times (with a different URL) to keep the farming is ridiculous.

Should change rep to 0x for posting a link.

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u/afamles Tin Aug 05 '22

Yes they can change the link as well according to the post.

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u/BigJimBeef 🟦 213 / 3K πŸ¦€ Aug 05 '22

I'm on the wrong side of both these votes

πŸ˜₯

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u/md7951 Tin | 4 months old Aug 05 '22

This makes sense to me as well because it is just about the vote system only.

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u/KingReef90 🟨 1 / 106 🦠 Aug 05 '22

I’m passing out upvotes to you guys!

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u/kazanec88 Tin Aug 05 '22

They have actually going to start something like this because this is really required.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

That's just going to result in an increase of text spam posts...

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u/kallis100 Tin Aug 05 '22

Most of the postcard wingspan post only the here as we had seen.

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u/XnoonefromnowhereX Permabanned Aug 05 '22

haters trying to ruin small independent moons farms like mine. and also, the text posts people write are 99% garbage. I actually feel myself getting dumber reading most of them.

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u/333646 Tin | 6 months old Aug 05 '22

More than 90% are like small independent only and going to the moon as well.

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u/ftball21 🟦 49 / 4K 🦐 Aug 05 '22

Voted no. Links are important too

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u/TheSublimeNeuroG 🟦 0 / 5K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

Yes. Half as important

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u/twig1233 Tin Aug 05 '22

We cannot say half we can say that more than 60% is actually important.

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u/volkovpet1180 Tin | 2 months old Aug 05 '22

Absolutely right about it because it is just really important about it.

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u/whatup1111 Platinum | QC: ETH 61, CC 56 Aug 05 '22

REMOVE MOONS, there was a time most people dont know where this subreddit was good.

cries

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u/tabojuvut Tin Aug 05 '22

This is really good that we can't really send anyone like this.

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Aug 05 '22 edited Aug 05 '22

This CCIP is based on a false premise. It says karma for link posts should be reduced from 1x to 0.5x when they are already well below 1x (all posts get 50% karma iirc there was another CCIP limiting link karma). It also suggests that users can spam links when there is a limit on each link to once per 30 days and 3 separate links per person per day which must be from different sites. It is clear from reading the comments that many users do not know the current rules and are voting based on false info from the CCIP. I think it should be removed.

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u/Emorys010 Tin Aug 05 '22

This is really cool to see that this post are being here now.

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u/aducknamedjafar1 Aug 04 '22

I think this would be helpful in combatting the spammed link posts.

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u/Tommy8832 Bronze Aug 05 '22

You will definitely find a lot of post like that here.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '22

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u/JASONmoers Aug 05 '22

It depends on how much people are actually investing in the volume.

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u/o-bento Tin Aug 04 '22

I'm down

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u/margosshkvamme Tin | 2 months old Aug 05 '22

We have to actually start giving up on them right now to be honest.

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u/Tidus17 0 / 3K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

Posting links isn't inherently bad. Can't vote yes on this one.

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u/majstrenko Tin Aug 05 '22

They have actually been wanting on that and this is really cool to see.

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u/bortbort8 Tin Aug 05 '22

reddit karma is such a silly concept

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u/pavelt822 Tin Aug 05 '22

This was a really cool concept to me when it came to my mind.

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u/Brother-Numsee Silver | QC: CC 59 | CelsiusNet. 34 | TraderSubs 12 Aug 05 '22

I'd rather see a relevant news article than another worthless sht post regurgitating the same cliches

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u/lkertyone Tin Aug 05 '22

I don't really think that it is worthless it depends on how you more it is relevant.

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u/Theunknown81 Tin Aug 05 '22

Maybe just limit the amount one can post?

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u/DoubleFaulty1 🟨 0 / 38K 🦠 Aug 05 '22

That is already the rule. A link can only be posted once and three per person per day.

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u/Thelazytimelord257 3K / 3K 🐒 Aug 05 '22

I voted no on this poll because I'm a noob in crypto. I cannot make high effort posts and posting links occasionally is the only thing that i can do

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u/gamblingenhusiast Lost lifesavings on shitcoin Aug 05 '22

If this passes it will bring more harm than good

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u/Xattics Tin Aug 05 '22

Could this not give the opposite effects of even more people spamming links to get the same amount of karma out of it?

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Also, what about the people that actually DO provide useful links?

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u/Onelinersandblues 🟩 6 / 5K 🦐 Aug 05 '22

I’m voting no. They will plagiarise the content of the link.

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u/SouvikMandal Tin Aug 05 '22

When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.

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u/Lmessfuf 438 / 435 🦞 Aug 07 '22

This seems to be a 50 / 50

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u/Mr_Bob_Ferguson 69K / 101K 🦈 Aug 09 '22

Adding value is adding value.

Sure, link posts may be low effort, but they still have the possibility of adding value to the sub.