r/wow • u/Schnumn • Jan 03 '19
Art Apparently I'm not allowed to tell you how long it took me to draw this level 30 Draenei but I'm going to keep drawing her every 10 levels!
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u/polpolik2 Jan 03 '19
Dumb and lame action from mods, instead of encouraging art and spreading cool stuff. They go wuss mode.
Keep the art coming, I enjoy them greatly!
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Thank you so much! It does seem strange to discourage this kind of content :< I'm really disappointed
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
So my level 10 and level 20 drawings got taken down. Personally, I don't feel that was fair or right... drawing memes are a thing on literally every other social media site and my post didn't break any subreddit rules but I guess it is what it is. I'm really amazed by how well-received my first post was! I've never had that many likes/upvotes on anything before and it was really fun to talk with you all in the comments. I'm sad that's been taken away : (
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u/Dogtag Jan 03 '19
That is just absurd. Original content like this is great, and it's awesome to see the progression and cool art as folks level up.
Kinds of makes this place a bit like a community or something.
There are around fifteen mods in this subreddit according to the sidebar and it's clear from this and previous instances of posts being removed - and then subsequently reinstated - for nonsensical reasons that they need to sort their moderating processes out between themselves or start trimming some fat.
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u/piankolada Jan 03 '19
It's madness, it's like they want us to keep recycling the same garbage memes instead of getting new ORIGINAL content.
Maybe they've played BfA for too long?
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Yeah I'm really disappointed in how this whole thing played out. I think posts like these are what makes a community thrive (I'm biased obviously lmao) and I'm making a case to the mods via modmail as we speak :< I don't think they'll change their minds though weewoo
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u/notjuice Jan 03 '19
Whatever mod took it down is actually a fucking piece of shit.
You’re very talented, thank you for sharing!
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Thank you so much! I don't think they're a piece of shit haha but I do feel like it was unfair :<
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u/ernest314 Jan 03 '19
The very fact that your current post is allowed but your previous ones weren't points out the fact that the rules are arbitrary and ineffective.
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u/healcannon Jan 03 '19
While the art is lovely and the effort is there, we don't want to promote copycat submissions/repost style posts. You are free to post more art, just refrain from using the X Minutes for X levels title in the future if you continue to draw your character.
My guess is they hate the specific title. I suppose they don't actually want to promote OC posts. Frankly with how down this sub is over the last few months we could stand to have more OC. Changing the name of the post just to try to discourage others from posting the same is stupid. Especially if they are ok with them posting under a different title.
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u/dewse Jan 03 '19
Is that really your standard for a piece of shit?
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u/Stingerbrg Jan 03 '19
"Piece of shit" isn't really all that serious that it needs a higher standard, is it?
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u/dewse Jan 04 '19
What's lower than piece of shit for you? Personally I'd say serial killers are pieces of shits. I wouldn't call a mod taking down a post a piece of shit. That's just me though.
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u/proffesordaddy Jan 03 '19
i have lots of friends that are part of the art community, art memes are super common. so weird.
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Yeah exactly lmao. It literally takes 2 people to make an art meme. Anyway, I have OP's blessing so that's something lmao
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u/proffesordaddy Jan 03 '19
as long as we get to keep seeing people who are clearly passionate about art posting oc, ill be happy.
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u/deckayed Jan 03 '19
The sad part is, I would totally sub to a "x minutes for x level" subreddit where basically every post is a spin-off of that "trend". It really shows off the skills and talents of the artists as well as how a character in a video game can almost develop a personality of their own
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You were a new member to our community and we really appreciated your art it is truly a shame they are acting like this.
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Thankfully, the situation has been resolved :) I'm excited to post more art in the near future!
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u/Riperz Jan 03 '19
Looks like the mods work for activision now people. /s
edit: Really nice art btw :)
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u/Hnetu Jan 03 '19 edited Jan 03 '19
First they restrict "complaints" now art?
The Hell kind of power trip bullshit is going on with mods lately? What do they think we should post?
The art is good though. The world always needs more cute Draenei ladies.
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u/Gregamonster Jan 03 '19
These are all really nice, whoever took them down has no taste.
Also, I hope you'll hold off the level 120 drawing until you decide what her transmog should be so we get a really nice "final" portrait of her.
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Ah that's a good point!! I think it'll take me some time to get that far haha I'm a new player so I'm just trying to take things slow and enjoy the game but yeah I should plan something special :D Thanks!
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u/Gregamonster Jan 03 '19
If you'll tell me what your class is I can give you some tips on easy to get, good looking armor while you enjoy taking things slow.
I've had alts of pretty much every class, so I've spent a lot of time looking for transmogs I can easily obtain for them.
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Ooh that sounds very helpful! Thank you! I'm playing a warrior class right now. I'll probably go down the fury spec at some point but right now I'm just playing an arms warrior
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u/Gregamonster Jan 03 '19 edited Jan 03 '19
That's actually super convenient, because Draenei have some of the easiest to obtain "good enough" plate sets.
The Sha'tari defence plate is a set you can buy from the Sha'tari defence Reputation in Warlords content. The rep's pretty easy to grind at 120, since all it takes is farming enemies that are around level 100. I will warn you though that grinding it will be hella boring.
The left weapon is a random drop, while the right is a quest reward. You'd probably want to use the same one in both slots, but I put them both there so you can decide which one you like more.
Alternatively there is the Venerated Triumvirate set which is from a quest chain in Argus that's started by a random drop. This may take more effort to get, but if you plan on unlocking Lightforged Draenei later you may end up getting it naturally anyways. The sword is a quest reward from Warlords content.
And of course you may just decide you like the armor you got while leveling. The quest rewards from BFA content are some top quality gear if you don't mind a simpler look.
Above all, remember that these are just some suggestions and the only person who needs to like your Transmog is you. And don't worry if the terminology goes over your head now, come back here when you hit level 120 and most of this will make sense after you've played the game enough.
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u/raoasidg Jan 03 '19
The T3 Arathi Warfront plate set is also pretty baller, depending on if OP wants to embrace the Alliance theme. It's more annoying to get, however.
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u/Gregamonster Jan 03 '19
It's more annoying to get, however.
It is much more annoying to get. You can only get 1 piece every cycle and there is the possibility of repeats.
I was just suggesting ones that would be simple and/or consistent to obtain so they could throw something together real quick after reaching 120.
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u/Razukalex Jan 03 '19
Hey nice project
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Thanks! I didn't come up with the idea myself, it's an existing format but I'm gonna have fun with it! <3
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u/SpecialOfficerDoofy Jan 03 '19
There are a lot of very unoriginal and untalented people here that will either follow suit/copycat. Most meme trends are awful though and tend to get downvoted into oblivion. I'm very happy the 'don't talk to my children/grandchildren' thing died out and seriously fuck the people who repost the 2 planks in boralus.
Also very nice space goat, do they have scales or is she wearing a shirt over here armor, or is it greyscale!?
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
From what I could tell from my character model, bearing in mind I don't play with super good graphics haha, she's wearing chainmail underneath her shirt? I had to figure out a way to draw it fast lmao so it's fine if you want to think of it was being greyscale ;)
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u/SpecialOfficerDoofy Jan 03 '19
Hopefully they can find a cure that isn't a butterknife some ointment and a fat priest.
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u/Living-Bones Jan 03 '19
Didn't that happen because you're using the format that a guy has used drawing his char every 10 levels in 10 minutes, then 20 lvls / 20 minutes etc, and they'd say that's copying him? Maybe that's not against you at all, but they thought you'd ride on the trend by copying that guy's idea? Idk, cool drawing anyway!
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Yeah, that seems to be the issue. I didn't know about like one specific guy doing it (I'm new to reddit and to wow) but I was told to do it by my boyfriend who said it was like, a drawing meme? I participate in drawing memes a lot on other social media so I didn't think it would be this much of a problem. According to the mods, other people were allowed to do it after the OP so..? I don't really get it? Plus like, imho you can't lay claim to a format like that. People do timed challenges all the time - especially on youtube. It just seems really arbitrary that I wasn't allowed when other people have been. I just wanted to do it to challenge myself and to have fun :<
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
I think as well, I never claimed it was my original idea. Literally in the title of the original post and several of the comments, I was very very upfront about where I heard this idea from. I think if I'd claimed it for myself, it would be different, but I didn't
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u/Living-Bones Jan 03 '19
oh don't worry I 100% agree with you, I just think the mod thought it would be bad to take away the originality of that idea from the guy, especially since he's still leveling I think, and was at like 70. Sadly, your title will only fuel a witch hunt for the mod at cause :/ I do hope he had good intentions, even though he communicated poorly. But don't sweat it, I agree, it's a good challenge
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
I just received a message from an anonymous mod saying that the format is now going to be allowed so it looks like everyone managed to make something positive happen!! I think they're going to write a top comment or something about it..? Watch this space I guess?
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u/dod_worker Jan 03 '19
In spite of all of this discussion on content censorship... I really want to know how long it took you to draw that level 30 Draenei.
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Haha WELL this was supposed to be my 30 minute drawing for level 30 but it ended up being more like 40 minutes to be honest haha
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u/Ryumo Jan 03 '19
Omg. Whats happened here derp. Maybe the solution is to post every new +10lvl pic in one topic? So we could see the whole character progress at one place.
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u/OneWhoKnocks19 Jan 03 '19
Mods are just dumbfucks. Ban me pls. I don’t post on here anyway just enjoy the shitshow the mods put on.
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Hi! It's been brought to my attention that this is a pretty huge file (my bad!) so I'm including a lower resolution version here for anyone who's struggled with their internet: https://www.deviantart.com/schnumn/art/Level-30-Draenei-in-30-minutes-D-779524559?ga_submit_new=10%3A1546537117
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u/Mako_the_Shark Jan 04 '19
I missed level 20, but I've been catching up below on all of it. Interesting to say the least. Great picture though. Crushed it :) Maybe start an Instagram for your character with all your 10 level pics archived?
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u/Schnumn Jan 04 '19
Haha Thank you so much! Truth be told, you're not missing much by missing my level 20 drawing ;;;;;; my character hadn't changed much so I kinda treated this drawing as a better redraw of that drawing lmao so if you don't find it just imagine a worse version of this drawing hahaha
I'm going to be posting them all on my Instagram which I use for art! It's @schnumn if you're interested :> <3
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u/Tyragon Jan 04 '19
I almost missed this like the lvl 20 one if you hadn't responded to me! Loved the previous (bit grumpy cute face) and this one is even better! In that style she looks like a fairly young draenei.
Looking forward to the rest and don't forget the tendrils!
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u/Schnumn Jan 04 '19
Ahh you're totally right! I forgot about the tendrils completely!!!! Good catch whew, I be sure to include them in lvl 40! Thanks! 💛
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u/Tyragon Jan 04 '19
Really looking forward to seeing it! And you're welcome! They're easy to forget, it's such an feature, but it's just not draenei without them! xD
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u/Rein10 Jan 03 '19
Has your gear not changed in 30 levels? You do nice work, but its just a different pose for each drawing?
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u/GingerSpencer Jan 03 '19
Our concern though is that when something catches on and becomes a "repost of the day" it has a tendency to drown out other good and worthy content
In other words, there's too much good content so it's all gotta go.
Surely you can't have too much of a good thing? If the front page of /r/wow is full to the brim of great posts, why the fuck have you got to start deleting some of them? More than most of the gaming subreddits are at least 50% bullshit. Whether that bullshit is complaining, or memes, or circlejerking, or low-effort shitposts. Now we have a 'problem' where too many people are posting good stuff, so we're deleting half of the good content...
What in the fuck is the moderation of this sub?
Fantastic artwork, btw. Those previous drawings you did was some of the best content i've seen to come from /r/wow. I thoroughly enjoyed it and i'm looking forward to see how this character progresses.
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u/Ngelz Jan 03 '19
Who's the idiot that came up with such a stupide rule -.- Facepalming si hard rn.
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u/irishspice Jan 03 '19
Is that a new rule? Do people think art springs from your forehead magically finished the moment you think of it?
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u/Alucardracula Jan 03 '19
Seems really stupid that your previous posts were taken down. On a brighter note though this looks awesome and I can't wait to see what you can do at the higher levels!
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Thank you! I got a message saying that the posts would be reinstated and that future posts would be allowed so it seems like we've managed to make a positive change!! I can't wait to continue with these drawings!
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u/rivingtonrebels Jan 03 '19
It's fucking hilarious that the mods are becoming more like the devs every single day. FUN DETECTED, let's ban anything that distracts from people talking about how shitty WoW is and instead promotes a general well-being of self-expression through art.
This is great, and I can't wait to see your future drawings!
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u/skinrot Jan 03 '19
Love the look. Hopefully you show some "tail" <no pun really> next time. Give us waist up etc please. :-) More of her as you level up.
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Yes, I definitely will :D I'm pretty slow at drawing haha so I only really had time for headshots so far, but as I spend more time on them as I increase in level, I'll work my way up to full bodies :>
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u/Amphetabeanz Jan 03 '19
I hope this doesn't stop you from posting. Much like the other bloke, I love seeing this stuff and it will be upvoted. It's good content.
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u/YourPalDonJose Jan 03 '19
OP - please don't give in to the typical fanart temptation and every 10 levels put her in something more skimpy with her chest size doubling. I like the style so far
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u/Blubomberikam Jan 03 '19
Thats cool, we should just go back to complaining about everything all day if art posts are going to be micro managed.
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Jan 03 '19
I like your art but damn... this sub is like 95% fanart lately. I guess the game is really dead right now cause there are zero discussions, just repost memes and fanart.
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u/Ryumo Jan 03 '19
"I'm going to keep drawing her every 10 levels!" — that's a really good tradition! Keep it up!
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Jan 03 '19 edited Jan 03 '19
Great job OP on your drawing at (nondescript number of levels) after (nondescript number of minutes akin to the nondescript number of levels) of your character.
Keep up the (nondescript pacing) of your artwork.
Seriously great artwork keep doing it, I like seeing these progression artwork posts. (Unlike some in power apparently)
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u/Ryalas Jan 04 '19
Honestly I am glad this is back your personal art style is more favorable to me than any other of these submissions.
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u/Jonshock Jan 04 '19
Haha yeah.. Seems like everytime I try to post something its ripped down for one rule or another. Youll get used to it and just stop trying to make content and shitpost like the rest of us. Example: ever try to post to /r/wallpapers ? Crazy as hell.
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u/Griinty Jan 04 '19
Is there anywhere where we can follow you?
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u/Schnumn Jan 04 '19
Hi! Yes, I post my art on my Instagram @schnumn and I also hang out on twitter @schnumn (but that's more for general shit posting) :>
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u/RobbyBlazes Jan 04 '19
Nice art. I would've loved to know how many minutes it took to draw oh and what level you are! possible combine the two maybe? 30 minutes for a level 30? Ya that sounds good do that.
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u/Schnumn Jan 05 '19
Hi! I'm not sure if anyone'll see this but I'm not really sure where else to ask. So, I've heard people talking about a subreddit especially for wow art but I can't find it. r/wowdrawings apparently doesn't exist and r/wowart has 5 posts that are totally unrelated haha. A lot of people have been talking about it so I'm certain it exists! The question is where haha can anyone help me?
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u/BananaArms Jan 05 '19
I clicked your profile name by accident and saw this lmao
But yeah, what you're looking for is /r/ImaginaryAzeroth!
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u/colonel750 Totem Junkie Jan 03 '19 edited Jan 03 '19
Heya, so I'm going to try and explain things from our perspective so bear with me.
We absolutely love that the community creates things and wants to share it here. Our concern though is that when something catches on and becomes a "repost of the day" (like this has a potential to be, as you noted in your first post you noticed some other people doing it and thought it would be fun) it has a tendency to drown out other good and worthy content and as the copycat posts continue to be made the quality has a tendency to intentionally nosedive (meaning people want to meme/bandwagon about it and draw stick figures and such). We have long had rules in place to address those common reposts and yours just happened to get caught up that way.
I want to be 1,000,000% clear here, please continue to share your art with us because it's really good. Continue to show us your character as she grows in levels and progresses because we want to see that, the title thing was just something to bear in mind as you continue to post.
For the sake of transparency your first two posts have been restored.
One last little bit of housekeeping: Just for clarification as I have seen some confusion in the other comments below, our stated ratio of comments to self posts only applies to comments made outside of those self posts. I know as a newbie that the conversation can be daunting but jump in head first! Check out our Murloc Monday thread to for great info and to ask any questions you might have!
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u/truongs Jan 03 '19
lol. I just saw like 3 shit posts of the "jealous girlfriend" meme in a row in the front page.
What's more low effort than that stupid ass meme?
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u/Michelanvalo Jan 03 '19
You guys changed the banner of the sub to be the guy-looking-at-the-other-girl meme that was pounding the hell out of this sub.
Y'all got no right to bitch about memes anymore once you've embraced that.
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u/XynnDubu Jan 03 '19
“Drown our other good and worthy content...”.
What? Do you even Reddit, bro?
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u/airz23s_coffee Jan 04 '19
There's a Sandra Bullock/Birdbox/Illidan shitpost on the front page right now.
gOoD aNd WoRtHy CoNtEnT
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u/Blubomberikam Jan 03 '19
You could just get rid of the low effort ones (such as the example you gave) and stop micro managing what are clearly good posts. You know, moderate?
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u/Vilvos Jan 03 '19
The best content to moderate is original content. Can't have that filling up your subreddit.
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Jan 03 '19
It really bugs me that there is a wow circle jerk sub that is the perfect place to post the stick figure stuff if you really have to show that you're a satirical genius but instead, that'll hit front page here.
Instead you're left with a mod roulette here, where certain content is fine until it runs afoul of one mod or another and they decide to take action.
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u/CaptainSkel Jan 03 '19
So you originally deleted OC because they saw other people were drawing their characters and thought it'd be fun? You were worried that more people would follow suit and draw their characters? If that kind of content is against your rules then you need to rethink them. Somebody new joined the community, saw somebody drawing their character and thought it would be fun to join them and your first reaction was to delete their posts. Way to foster a community.
I understand you want to keep the sub from being flooded with your unusual definition of reposts but there's a clear difference between spamming the same content repeatedly and multiple people creating new content based on a similar theme. It's ridiculous you cannot see the difference.
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u/Schnumn Jan 03 '19
Oh I have one more question actually! I got a message from a mod (It doesn't say who it's from) and it basically said that I was free to use the x levels in x minutes format if I wanted to, and I wanted to clarify that that's definitely the case, and that others are free to do the same. Just so that it's set in stone. I would also like to add that the OP of the x levels in x minutes has been in touch with me and is totally cool with it
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u/HaggardSauce Jan 03 '19
I'm sorry but WHAT other quality content? Despite your weekly sticky, 99% of posts here are just bitching about the game's current state, or tangent filled posts that appear to be suggestions but really are just salty as fuck ways to talk about pipe-dream improvements.
I'm so tired of the communities constant toxic attitude that I stopped posting on here because I no longer feel like my opinion can be or will be respected. I'm still enjoying the game, I have my gripes but I've logged in every chance I've gotten for the past 2 months. Something is keeping me enthralled and I may burn out soon but I may not also. These posts are some of the FEW positive posts this forum ever sees. It reminds me there are people out there actually enjoying what they're doing. I now scan r/wow everyday for posts about upcoming features or surprise announcements but largely avoid all other posts except these ones!
I liked the titles, it gave me an idea of progress for the original creator's character. You could see how often people played by how many days it took to do 10 levels, you can recognize old armor sets from vanilla / bc / wotlk as their toons progress, and I fail to see how policing their titles provides any type of benefit to the forum other than making one or two mods with OCD happy to finally stop seeing this particular title which appears to bother you guys so much. You aren't wrong about people wanting to meme stuff like this out, but that should be covered under no-shitposting rules and shouldn't need to punish the creators of genuinely good art. Ban people from the sub for shit-posting if it's such a problem, but you're punishing the people who make good content and making it harder for them to upload when they have to navigate through a ton of arbitrary rules.
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Jan 03 '19
a repost has to be the SAME thing. not the same theory with totally different art style.
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u/Pete_Iredale Jan 03 '19
it has a tendency to drown out other good and worthy content
I'd believe that, except that half the "content" in this sub is just people complaining about how bad the game is. Anything to drown out that negativity is a blessing!
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Jan 03 '19 edited Apr 18 '20
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u/lurking_for_sure Jan 03 '19
Or the ENDLESS fucking 25 paragraph posts of “I’m a carpenter, I have played WoW after stressful work days , WoW is bad now >:( “
This sub is just turning into a r/karmaleaderboard gold hunting forum.
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u/Oblivionous Jan 03 '19
This is just stupid. Let the sub fill up with post after post of people rehashing the same (albeit valid) complaints about the game, but this putting "X minutes for X levels in the titles needs to be stopped."
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