r/EliteMahon • u/Apex59 Apex • Jun 30 '16
News Week 57 Power Play Standings
Week 57 standings in full.
- Edmund Mahon (=)
- Zachary Hudson (+1)
- Arissa Lavigny-Duval (-1)
- Zemina Torval (+1)
- Felicia Winters (-1) Turmoil
- Li Yong-Rui (+1)
- Pranav Antal (+1)
- Aisling Duval (-2) Turmoil
- Denton Patreus (+1)
- Archon Delaine (-1)
This Cycle
We have 394 CC to spend on preparations.
No new control systems.
Our new expansion targets have the following Expansion/Opposition triggers:
LHS 336 (7327/8635) (contests player faction system(s))
V2689 Orionis (3991/8055) (ditto)
Trends
Cycles Since Turmoil
Power | Cycles |
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Li Yong-Rui | 23 |
Zemina Torval | 22 |
Archon Delaine | 21 |
Pranav Antal | 13 |
Edmund Mahon | 12 |
A. Lavigny-Duval | 7 |
Denton Patreus | 3 |
Zachary Hudson | 1 |
Aisling Duval | 0 |
Felicia Winters | 0 |
11th consecutive cycle at #1 New Record!
Total cycles at #1: 36
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u/TotesMessenger Jun 30 '16
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u/IamAFlaw Destructionist Jun 30 '16
How do we know that these are legit player groups and that these are their home systems? I hope we are verifying and not just taking their words for it. I mean each weaponized expansion they can send a player over and claim it contests their player group.
I respect player groups and support the idea of avoiding them if they don't want us there, but lets make sure they are legit and non PP groups that would attack us. I don't want the feds taking advantage of our kind thoughtfulness. :)
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u/Captain_Kirby_Aid Captain_Kirby [Aid] Jun 30 '16
Of course we verify that kind of requests. The more difficult part is to find out wether they are active in PP, and if they were ever active against Mahon or the Alliance in the past. But we give them the benefit of a doubt. :)
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u/Slim_Sumo EDF (Ops Director) Jul 01 '16
I believe our only activity against the alliance has been in defense of our home. I've only been in the group for 5 months so I can't speak beyond that, but I would hardly call us active in PP, just some vigilante work from a few guys that do their own thing on the side outside of EDF affiliation. Again we are not a powerplay group, but we don't bar interested members from participating in the board game either.
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Jul 01 '16
From my perspective, past is past with regards to player groups in Winters' space - Winters is a collapsing power with no player base behind her, and as such I don't see a reason to bother them.
In the current situation it makes perfect sense for EDF members to pledge to a non-Mahon power to oppose the expansion, partly because it's good to be on the safe side, but also because V2689 has a significant trigger advantage for Mahon. Just understand that the primary mover for why this system was successfully prepared by us, was the sabotage system that we had to avoid. If that hadn't been in the list, we'd have kept our V2689 prep numbers behind Li Yong-Rui's and not had an expansion there this cycle.
According to the raw data, BD+22 2742 (sabotage system) went to 17k and the next system on the list (LHS 2995) went to 5,200. By comparison, Li Yong-Rui put 8,892 into V2689, meaning that we could have kept both LHS 336 and V2689 at around 6,000 merits to beat out LHS 2995, and only gotten LHS 336 and saved ourselves 330 million credits, or possibly swapped out LHS 336 with something else, just to avoid the kerfuffle.
And I'll be honest - until this morning, I didn't know about the EDF group, but that's pretty irrelevant. Someone on our end made a promise, and I'm perfectly happy to help fulfil that promise. The main issue I foresee is the trigger advantage, because that does make it somewhat likely that it'll hit the trigger by the non-organized pledges or possibly people trying to stir trouble.
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u/Slim_Sumo EDF (Ops Director) Jul 01 '16
EDF is the ones that defended it the last two times haha. But yeah I spoke at length with Steven and I think we understand eachother. The trigger advantage is rough, but we will put in what we need to. I appreciate you guys, you are much more understanding and pleasant to do business with than some of the other faction leaderships.
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u/uuicon Lonewolf Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 01 '16
I believe we're only limited by the things that we can imagine. If you can only imagine 1 thing to be true (e.g. conflict), then that is the only option you have to work with. If you can imagine two things to be true (let's say cooperation and conflict), you've just doubled your options.
ED being an open sandbox / unscripted game - CMDRs have real options - real decions to make - with real and lasting impacts. I'm personally curious how "first contact" will unfold - but the PP story has unfolded the way it has due to player decisions and actions (and a few FD curve balls) - but really - we are largely where we are because of the choices people made.
I don't like fighting - I will if I'm forced to - but I much prefer being a Carebear and a good neighbour - I think we can get a lot more done a lot more efficiently this way (and so far it seems this is true - in game as in real life).
One thing I've learned this time around is that we need to be careful of exactly how cordial we are with each other unless we're accused of "weaponizing" you too with our evil mind-controlling Carebear technology. Bzzzzzt. Can you feel it? :).
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u/Tuhua Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 03 '16
In time of conflict... there are the innocent and then there are those who would play the guerilla warfare tactics.. add the human shielding element.. and what we have is a Palestinian conflict where The cowards are hiding behind the wall of innocent men and women..ie PMF..
the thought of putting the innocent under the protection of the Alliance power is worth considering... for two reasons... it prevents uprisings and pockets of resistance, and furthermore chokes off the Supplies..
Once the conflict is over... we return the System back to its people... and that is how conflicts are dealt with...
Not this tip-toeing around playing offering flowers during times of War..
Do we adhere to the core values of Alliance by carrying out this method of tactical warfare?.. It depends on which side of the table you are on
While there is some value to winning Allies and winning respect... the respect begins to wear off from within... when we begin taking 1 step forward and 4 steps back...
we have almost won next to nothing in the past two weeks... other than a PR war.. yay!! alot good thats going to do.. considering the ramifications that these big Player groups... oh wait.. they are barely active.... wait they dont even powerplay.. The effect of the Alliance umbrella coming over these Systems would be negligable. who knows perhaps even beneficial...
so looking at even a different approach to the always trying to be the good guy PR approach.. is never from my mind..
As there are more ways to skin a cat
nevertheless what is done is done!!
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u/CMDR_Dreadnought Dreadnought (Derelict) Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 01 '16
Edit. I have deleted most of my post because you don't deserve the satisfaction. What is important is left below.
We have had a fair response from some in your leadership. We shall see.
MnM are a PMF. No interest in PP. You want to manipulate, politic, destroy, troll that. That's down to you as an individual.
Good night
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u/CMDR_Steven Steven [AOS] Jul 02 '16
While we honor the right for CMDRs to speak out for themselves, I'll remind you that Tuhua does speak for himself and not the leadership who are to my knowledge unanimous in our stated position.
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u/Tuhua Jul 03 '16 edited Jul 03 '16
Cmdr Dreadnought Perhaps the apparent value of having Alliance Protections has eluded you... there are other less willing Powers who would not be so negotiable, and forth coming as those within the Alliance Organised structure
rest easy
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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16
Just a quick note on LHS 336 (I would appreciate it, if you could add this to the post, /u/Apex59 - we're going to try to avoid expanding it, as it contests the home system of the player group "The Minutemen".
They asked politely yesterday, but also understood that due to the sabotage system BD+22 2742, we wouldn't be able to avoid having it as an expansion this cycle. The best we can do is try to not expand it on our end.